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FYI -
Here's a Komiyama interview about
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Posted: 2008-05-27 06:59:39
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On 2008-05-27 05:18:14, WhyBe wrote:
On 2008-05-27 03:42:29, aksd wrote:
...There is NO change to the WM UI, there is NO modified SDK for developers to use, the start menu still looks the same.
Ifyou read the link you posted, like I mentioned several times earlier the apps they want are WVGA, nothig to do with any framework as that framework does'nt exist. Do you know that to write an entire SDK with a framework takes close to 2-3 years for completion? And dont you think its stupid to waste resources on a framework when this is the last few months of Win CE 5.0? Do you actually think that SE want to release a phone with a modified OS so that it'll reduce the apps available and devs working for the X1? The screen is issue enough, doing what you think they're going to do is commercial suicide, anyway its not going to happen so......big deal
. BTW where exactly is this "framework" for me to download and write programs for the X1? can I have a link please?
@aksd:
I don't remember anyone purporting that
is altering Windows/framework in any sort of way. All I ever stated was that
and developers are designing custom apps for the X1. Since many apps won't be "right" for the hires screen, it only makes sense for third parties to have some "Xperia"-type products ready to purchase at launch. And it only makes sense that all of the built in X1 apps are "Xperia"-type apps. All of this can be done on top of WM in the same manner that TouchFlo is. There doesn't have to be any reworking of the OS. All that is needed is time to get this software "right".
This gives us a good starting point at launch instead of trying to make standard WM apps work with the hires screen. Since
is marketing this thing as a premium product delivering a premium experience, one should expect the software to match the quality of the hardware. I'm willing to allow the extra time for
to accomplish this.
The irony is that this was the same reason SE gave for the delay in the release of P990 - i.e. to give developers more time to come out with software for P990. I think looking back later, we can all have a good laugh at your statement if history repeats itself.
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Posted: 2008-05-27 07:00:39
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p990???
Get over it.....
There have been plenty of
phones since then. I think every manufacture has dropped the ball at least once.
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Posted: 2008-05-27 07:52:54
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On 2008-05-27 07:52:54, WhyBe wrote:
p990???
Get over it.....
There have been plenty of
phones since then. I think every manufacture has dropped the ball at least once.
The parallel is just too hard to resist. It was said by the SE-friendly eldar of m-r that SE is having software problems (most probably panels related) and delayed to earliest release of nov 08. So SE is not working on "additional" apps to enhanced the X1 but they are just struggling to get the basic done. So you should get over of being so overly unrealistic.
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Posted: 2008-05-27 09:51:48
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mib1800 wrote:
...I think looking back later, we can all have a good laugh at your statement if history repeats itself.
...and when it doesn't, you will acknowledge yourself as being a hater, right?
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Posted: 2008-05-27 09:52:31
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On 2008-05-27 09:51:48, mib1800 wrote:
The parallel is just too hard to resist. It was said by the SE-friendly eldar of m-r that SE is having software problems (most probably panels related) and delayed to earliest release of nov 08. So SE is not working on "additional" apps to enhanced the X1 but they are just struggling to get the basic done. So you should get over of being so overly unrealistic.
You speak as if
is one guy huddled over an X1 trying to get it to work before the release
.
is a corporation that has the means of hiring whatever coding talent is needed for their products. Their gaffe with the p990 could have been due to accountants or management poor cost-cutting decisions--such as, reducing the needed resources for the p990 developers to properly finish the project. That's usually what ruins products in other markets.
If this "panel-problem" did exist, maybe the increase to 256MB of memory solved it???
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Posted: 2008-05-27 10:02:37
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On 2008-05-27 10:02:37, WhyBe wrote:
You speak as if
is one guy huddled over an X1 trying to get it to work before the release
.
is a corporation that has the means of hiring whatever coding talent is needed for their products. Their gaffe with the p990 could have been due to accountants or management poor cost-cutting decisions--such as, reducing the needed resources for the p990 developers to properly finish the project. That's usually what ruins products in other markets.
Lately SE seems to be more interested in making profits than investing. Look at the many rehashed phones that are coming out. I am not optimistic at all. Look at all the "carry-over" bugs of UIQ3 after 2-3 years and the never-get-fixed-bugs of K850 and you have some ideas the disarray inside SE software team.
You may view this as being harsh on SE but the reality is just that. SE is not getting thing up and moving let alone having a handle on things. To say otherwise is not speaking the reality but just telling some fanboy's wishes.
If this "panel-problem" did exist, maybe the increase to 256MB of memory solved it???
We know the increase in RAM is not a good fix like optimising the code for the panel (which should reduce RAM requirement and not increase it). SE throws in more RAM so as to make a bloated panel software able to run. This will very likely results in a laggy operations.
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Posted: 2008-05-27 11:03:48
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@WhyBe
The fact that you point us to an interview with Mr K where he failed to even answer all the questions put to him and it took so long to even get those BS answers.
Along with the fact that you seem to be of the opinion that everything SE say is of course both 100% true and accurate suggests to me a level of naivety rarely seen on any forum.
I have to ask have you ever used a smart phone?
Have you ever used a WM device?
Have you ever used a UIQ device?
Because quite frankly your belief in all your told by SE PR is quite unbelievable and the lack of understanding you appear to have also defies belief.
As shown by your
" SE is a corporation that has the means of hiring whatever coding talent is needed for their products. Their gaffe with the p990 could have been due to accountants or management poor cost-cutting decisions--such as, reducing the needed resources for the p990 developers to properly finish the project. That's usually what ruins products in other markets."
As obviously you have managed to miss the fact that the didn't fix it they stopped support and that the P1 and W960 still launched with known bugs from the earlier devices still not fixed. Not forgetting the K850 that still even know 6 months plus after launch many are still waiting for a yet another new firmware to fix it.
Theory and logic is one thing as yes SE should be able to do all those things that you say but the reality is very different isn't it?
Marc
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Posted: 2008-05-27 11:41:48
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Why dosent they put an accelerometer in it
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Posted: 2008-05-27 11:42:46
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Actually, i didnt give a damn if their front panel is good or not. If i found the front panel is sucks or slow, i just deactivating them, no big deal! It just home screen anyway.
The apps in X1 that i delight to see is XMB style media player and Track ID (it very useful for me for ID-ing Japaneese & Korean Music)
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Posted: 2008-05-27 12:06:00
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