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i think the fact that anybody tries to compare the Z1's camera capabilities to the 1020 goes to show just how great the Z1's camera is. the 1020's sensor is much bigger, it's got a hump, giving more room for things like OIS and xenon flash. As auerlius said, as a matter of basic science, in terms of pure capability the 1020 should be much better than the Z1. Yet, we are seeing that the Z1 does indeed come very close to the 1020 in a lot of situations (albeit not all).

I don't know anybody with a 1020 or i would gladly invite them to a shootout when i get my Z1. I agree with aurelius that for a well respect/known site like GSMArena to do a full review, they should do it with a retail version. it's just irresponsible on their part, even if they did slide in the "pre-production" part. most people miss it! I know i did..

As i said earlier, the only fair way to do a shootout comparison is to take fanboys of each device of generally equal photography skills and then shoot out that way. i think that'd be a great "shootout" to read about and if i knew people who had one of each, i'd be setting it up!

EDIT: Regarding the GSMarena updated review.. it may be a petty thing, but I lose all respect for a big name site that misspells Xperia when doing a review on an XPERIA device

@vivftp saying the Z1 is comparable to the Iphone 5 isn't saying much. Iphone 5 takes decent pics, but the Z1 should be blowing it away. Granted the comparison tool is using photos from a pre-production device, so who knows. But in the end, it should blow the Iphone 5 away and it should beat the Iphone 5s as well. In terms of HW capability, the Z1 should be making all other android phones look noticeably worse. It's down to the SW now.. and let's hope sony can perfect it like they do in their cybershot cameras..

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Posted: 2013-09-21 21:38:57
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Well on many photos we've seen from the Z1 the detail at 100% crop is excellent, especially in the middle portions of the photo. There's still a bit of noise, but those could easily be improved by the newer software.

Then we have photos from the Z1 where it performs excellently in lower light and gives great white balance.

I think the problem is consistency. There are great photos from the Z1 out there, but there are also a lot of not so great shots. It could boil down to a lot of factors though. The photgrapher - a shit photographer with the greatest camera in the world could still take crappy images. Settings - superior auto seems ok overall, but some claim it chooses the wrong settings and produces unrealistic looking images. Camera software version - some could be taken with pre-production models with older firmware. Even with the latest versions though, the Z1 seems to contain more noise than Sonys own Cybershot cameras - I'm guessing this is all software related.

There is also another possibility that must be discussed - the Z1s camera might not be as good as many hoped and the images it produces will be good, but not stellar. I know I don't have much to back this up, but I'm going to say this is the least likely of all options. The Z1 seems to have all the components to make it a standout camera, and some people believe it already is. Then again some people believe otherwise and that other current models produce better results. Well we know the hardware is already there to produce quality results, so I think it'll all boil down to software. The launch software is acceptable, but not the greatest IMO. Let's see how things progress once the proper firmware is released.

BTW for those in the know, for image processing is it true the Z1 is using a tweaked version of the one on the Z/ZL? Or is it its own version created from the ground up? Or is the one created from the ground up the big update that's been discussed?
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Posted: 2013-09-21 22:38:47
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no wonder randomuser was asking for rooted Z1's in here the other day..

ha. i would root my Z1 when i get it, but i want to use my camera. So no rooting until I know for sure the camera will work properly


BTW .. i'm so excited to get my Z1. i really can't wait!!!!! i probably should have waited since i'm in the middle of my busiest time of year for work and all I can think about is the Z1 on its way to my door.. when i SHOULD be thinking about work.. sigh. i'm screwed.

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Posted: 2013-09-21 22:57:19
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there goes QA of your work...
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Posted: 2013-09-22 01:06:12
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There is a huge problem with the brand new flagship Z1!

In Germany, the first buyers get an included MH1c Premium Headset with smart key.

But every keypress brings up only the smart Key setup dialog. No other function is working!

This means no volume control, NO call answer!

Is this a software or a hardware related problem?

This issue is also with the standard headset from Xperia Z!

I´ve read several threads in other forums, (xda-developers, pocketpc.ch, android-hilfe.de), a lot of users with same problem!
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Posted: 2013-09-22 01:08:52
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^so many exclamations!

so if it brings up the setup dialog.. why don't you set it up?

Otherwise, the volume and play/pause buttons should work regardless. only the smartbutton is for sony phones.

Highly doubt it is a Z1 issue.
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Posted: 2013-09-22 02:22:22
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@moogoo

Rooting Z1 does not break the camera, that happens only when you unlock bootloader and I do not recommend unlocking bootloader as it would void your warranty.

Rooting is a completely safe and easy process.
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Posted: 2013-09-22 05:57:06
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^
Ramu did you got your Z1?
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Posted: 2013-09-22 06:11:37
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It's unprofessional that they used a proto/pre-production unit in their review
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Posted: 2013-09-22 06:16:57
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oh.. for some reason i was mixing up the two

well then, i shall be rooting my baby when it arrives in a few days..
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Posted: 2013-09-22 06:26:49
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