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just played with the K790i in the stores
liked the phone
and ya i noticed the rubber buttons i hope that wont be a problem
i want to buy this phone but lets see how the reviews go and hopefully would get it in a few months unless the W950i catches my eyes

lol

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Posted: 2006-08-06 03:42:35
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On 2006-08-02 18:22:46, Tervel wrote:
I don't think SE gives a rat's a$$ what people have invested. They want everyone to buy new cards so that they can make more money.


SE are not introducing M2 sticks to make money for God's sake. It costs them millions to develop and produce new memory formats. The reason they introduce ever smaller memory sticks is to fit ever more hardware in a shrinking platform. Look how big the K800 is, it's huge, imagine if they had to make room for a MSDP card? Imagine the difficulty SE have in squeezing everything into such small form factors. Infact Motorola and Nokia have been using micro memory cards way before SE, so if anything, SE are holding out for the customer's sake as long as they can before they absolutely have to reduce the size of the memory stick.

Do you think the sticks would be so expensive if SE could still make money (lot's more) by selling them even 25% cheaper? Manufacturer's keep accessory prices high to recover costs, not to make money. The real price of a single M2 stick (if you count the development cost) is probably thousands of dollars. SE won't even start recouping the cost of M2 development until the product has been in the market for a year or more. By then, the price will come down to more reasonable limits.

The profit in their main market, ie: mobile phones, subsidises development in the accessory market. Do you think they made any money from the Car-100 for example? Of course not.

They reduce the size of all components in the handset out of shear necessity, the memory expansion is no exception.

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Posted: 2006-08-06 04:35:59
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M2 is round about the same price as MSDuo except its hard to get cause its just out hence some people are selling them premium This message was posted from a K750
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Posted: 2006-08-06 12:12:36
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Ah well my time is up and Im going to buy a K800. Normally I get quite excited around this time but to be honest this year Ive even been pondering just keeping my phone until something better comes out.

When I got my W800, I imagined that a year later there would be another phone with a better camera and probably better music. I loved the W800 styling and was looking forward to more of the same. I've always enjoyed the convenience of having a camera in my phone, so all the new W models are now out of the picture for me. I still can't understand why the K800 which is a camera specific phone has such an awful screen cover? It kinda reminds me of a tourist with one of those annoying backpacks. Surely the W800 had it right? Ah well back to the black brick I go. If only Nokia had produced a phone which outperformed the K800 I would have returned to them this time around.
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Posted: 2006-08-06 19:11:06
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jakemaster,

I think you will love the upgrade from the w800, a lot of people said there is not a "wow" factor with the k800. IMO it feels like a huge upgrade from my w800. After waiting for a while to buy the K800 and reading all the posts, I don't understand why so many posts were negitive about this phone. Everyday I use this phone the more I like it, there are so many new feachers and the older things work much better. It has been well worth the money. I can finially take pictures of my friends at the bar or club.

On the down side:
The w800 keypad is easier to use.
Also keep your old earphones
no mega bass but I have adjusted the equalizer for extra bass on the k800 which is almost as good.
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Posted: 2006-08-08 13:59:53
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I too have found I like the K800 more each day. When I first opened the box I thought it was large, thick, heavy with minimal feature improvements.
As time has passed I now think it is almost flawless versus the competition.
SE's next generation of phones should theoretically be almost perfect.

By the way, I am currently doing a battery life test on K800 (3G vs 2G). At the moment I am on 2G mode and battery life stands at 39% after 90hours of moderate usage (few pics, 20mins music, 5mins calls, 50 texts ---per day).

This is clearly an impressive result so far, I will make a new thread on the issue once my findings are complete.
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Posted: 2006-08-08 20:00:32
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anybody knows if is possible to
use ADSL of my computer in this mobile???

like in W800/K750 models???

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Posted: 2006-08-08 20:58:41
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@max_wedge - I completely disagree with your last statement regarding cost and reasons for making the M2. IF Sony didn't make ALOT of money off their Memory products, they would have Never gotten into the Flash Memory business, because at the time they announced the original Memory Stick, there were no less than 3 ESTABLISHED flash memory standards on the market - Compact Flash, MMC (which lead ot SD at the same time or a little after Sony's announcement) and Smart Media. When I say Established, I mean that MOST devices with removable memory used one of these standards so there was Absolutely no need to create another standard... except to capitalize on the sales of the media. As a standard is conserned, Sony has been close to the Worst in staying consistent - Compact Flash has pretty much NOT changed since it it's original design - as a scaled down version of the PCMCIA Flash memory card. MMC more or less resulted in the creation of SD which until just a couple of months has been the Same media and devices that use SD have been backwards compatible with MMC memory. SONY on the other hand has released no less than 4 versions - Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, Memory Stick Pro Duo and now the M2.

Sony makes these things because they have Huge margin and the make alot of money on them. The reason they were behind on the miniturisation of the MS to M2 is because they were behind the entire Flash memory market when they came out - MMC lead to SD which led to MiniSD which Led to TF/MicroSD. MMC was out first so the follow ups were out first.

Why do you think Olympus made the xD standard? Because there weren't enough others on the market? NO. They did it for the same reason - to make money on the memory card sales.
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Posted: 2006-08-08 23:12:04
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@marineking: You're probably right - We don't all get what we want and its seemingly the best phone out there for its market. I'll bite the bullet and get one. Also it'll be nice to stop Orange customer services from phoning me every day pestering me about the end of my contract.
K800 here I come!
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Posted: 2006-08-10 00:10:05
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to marineking and everyone else..
guys the sounds too low and bad bass so any good eq settings till hopefully we have a good firmware update from se...god im waiting for one..

cheers all..
utsav
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Posted: 2006-08-10 19:39:47
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