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@Max
You were around on page 8 of this thread when this subject was discussed; why revisit it?
@Jojo
If you are Roman Catholic as you say, look up the Book of Genesis and read about the other children Adam and Eve had after Cain and Abel.
If people here want to call into question one of the most heavily researched subjects of all time - Christianity/Bible Doctrine - at least get your facts straight. It only shows how little regard Bible opponents have for this system of belief, that they think it can be undone by laymen armed with a few wise-cracks.
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Posted: 2008-01-29 03:41:34
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Looks like aliens came and dropped mankind(their creation)on the earth.
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Posted: 2008-01-29 13:56:00
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You mean we're mere alien droppings?
Thats sick.
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Posted: 2008-01-29 14:03:00
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On 2008-01-29 03:41:34, carkitter wrote:
@Jojo
read about the other children Adam and Eve had after Cain and Abel.
@car - H m m m m m . . . . so ya mean to say that the CHILDREN of Adam and Eve married each other
if so, INCEST was already in vogue during their time
Well, anyway . . . be it as it may, I still donut believe that Adam and Eve were the very first peeps in this planet Earth !
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Posted: 2008-01-29 14:27:29
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On 2008-01-29 03:41:34, carkitter wrote:
@Max
You were around on page 8 of this thread when this subject was discussed; why revisit it?
@Jojo
If you are Roman Catholic as you say, look up the Book of Genesis and read about the other children Adam and Eve had after Cain and Abel.
If people here want to call into question one of the most heavily researched subjects of all time - Christianity/Bible Doctrine - at least get your facts straight. It only shows how little regard Bible opponents have for this system of belief, that they think it can be undone by laymen armed with a few wise-cracks.
Not even all Christians agree on whether the bible is symbolic or literal. And all the study you refer to has never come to any scientifically provable conclusion. There has also been a huge amount of research and effort into evolution, yet you dismiss that out of hand. But words in a book written over two thousands years ago, you are prepared to take at face value. I realise it's an issue of Faith, but faith is not proof.
My faith lies with science to answer the questions of nature. I also believe in God, but not religion. I don't believe any human alive can "prove" the nature of God. Science is the tool we use to understand the natural world, Faith is the tool we use to understand God. I have Faith that God will provide for me. But what of those people for whom God does not provide? If you want to use faith as a form of Proof, it is a very week one from their perspective.
There is no proof of any religious concept. Religion is just a cloak that humans enshroud their lack of understanding in to feel better about not knowing. Personally, I am happy not knowing, and prefer to put my money on science to find the answers to the questions nature pose us. What science can never understand; Who is God? This we can know in our heart, but can never wrap in logic. There is no logic to God. God cannot be quantified. God cannot be proven. And all those who attempt to prove God, or to prove their particular religious beliefs, will always fail.
As to coming back to this discussion
Well your arguments were by no means conclusive a few pages back. I remain unconvinced. I encourage you to try again, but no Christian (or any religious person) has yet offered me irrefutable or even reasonable proof that their religious beliefs are the one true belief. I believe the proof of Evolution is virtually complete, but religion relies instead on words in a book written by humans. Not a very strong competition for Evolution in my logical mind
The truth of God is far more embracing than any of the world's religions claim, who all squable over what is "truth", missing the point completely.
The truth of God is something that cannot be enshrouded in words and scriptures, no matter how inspired the people who wrote them. All the inspired prophets, while I believe they truly were inspired by God, were only human and they struggled to fully understand what God told them. This explains why all of them can have such different interpretations, even though they all heard the "words" of God. Bhuddist, Hindu, Muslim, Christian. In all the texts are grains of truth, but not one is the Whole Truth. To understand the Truth of God, each human must make their own journey through life. There is no book that will take you to God. The path to God is through the heart.
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Posted: 2008-01-30 01:14:30
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@max - . . . . in my interpretation . . . . GOD is just a SUPREME human being (an Alien most likely)
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Posted: 2008-01-30 01:25:50
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you never know! I don't know if I believe aliens are God, I think they are just another form of life, more evolved than us. I do think they have interfered with human development in the past. There is lot's of anecdotal evidence of this in the worlds mythology.
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Posted: 2008-01-30 03:09:13
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On 2008-01-30 03:09:13, max_wedge wrote:
you never know! I don't know if I believe aliens are God, I think they are just another form of life, more evolved than us. I do think they have interfered with human development in the past. There is lot's of anecdotal evidence of this in the worlds mythology.
totally agree, im cant say i firmly believe. BUT at the rate we are evolving and with cloning and such and our space exploration. If we had the technology to travel at light speed which im sure at one point in the future we will, we would find a planet like our own and create our earth from scratch and watch it evolve to learn from ourselfs and our past! I think that aliens could and i think more than likely have done the same, we could just be a big experiment, so they can learn how they evolved and have been watching us for thousands of years! there is so much evidence of aliens on our planet its unreal and unexplained stuff
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Posted: 2008-01-30 03:20:40
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. . . it has been SAID time and again, that if our planet will be aged at present at: 2 Billion years old, the planets wherein those martians/aliens LIVED said to have survived the: 4 Billion year-old mark
just half of ours . . . so, if we are just in the mobile-phone-technology AGE, theirs should have already even PASSED the ESP-thingy . . . sending messages just by THINKING . . . I mean they can relay messages just by thinking . . . even when they are light years-apart
The Star Trek movie/tv concept will be put into REALITY in the future as what others were saying some decades ago !
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Posted: 2008-01-30 03:30:08
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On 2008-01-29 01:50:45, *Jojo* wrote:
@max - Yeah, I do AGREE pal
! But as the TITLE of this thread states . . . I am 100% that it's NOT Adam and Eve who FIRST Roamed this planet Earth. One more thing, as it was written . . . They are the FIRST couple to have survived this planet, then had: Abel and Cain (both boys) as their kids . . . so, how did the population GREW from there
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Have you forgotten this:
If you say he was Adam was the firt man, how come when God punishes Cain his son fo kiling his brother he says he wil make him a fugitive or a wonderer. Cain says the people wil find him and kill him. Read GENESIS 4 vrs 14-16. Where did these people come from then if Adam was the fist man on earth.
If you can read closey inbetween the three accounts that I have quoted from the book of Genesis, it is crystal clear that no other man was created after adam and those that were created by word of mouth in the first account. Even adams descendant werere maf from sexual feelings and intercourse. We only see a different case when it comes to Jesus. Thats about 2043 years back. Correct me if Iam wrong
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Posted: 2008-02-01 13:25:39
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