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On 2010-01-26 15:33:47, doministry wrote:
On 2010-01-26 14:51:03, Nitro Fan wrote:
I don't like the iPhone for a number of reasons and have been very critical of it in the past, but currently it is the benchmark that all others aspire to, its available and selling like hot cakes.
Given the fact the X10 is still in the lab with issues! I struggle to understand what statement comparing Apple rumors to Sony Ericson rumors makes?
The only benchmark it gives is sales number.
If not that, nobody would bother.
Whilst we clearly agree it is out selling all other smart phones,
But I am not sure I agree with your other statement "nobody would bother" it seems to me both the X10 and Nexus attempt to copy the clean lines of the iPhone (IMHO the Nexus is a much nicer looking device than the X10)
And surely there can be no doubt that Android is designed to imitate the iPhone interface as closely as possible! indeed almost every aspect of the iPhone Google dare not to include in their UI for fear of copyright infringement is being developed by third party developers Android will emulate the iPhone UI completely very shortly
There are pages and pages of comments on ESATO alone bemoaning the fact that any good interface NEEDS finger only pinch zooming, multitouch like the iPhone and yet more pages trumpeting how rubbish resistive screens are compared to .....the iPhone's capacitive display (A claim I disagree with strongly)
The manufacturers barley resist the press claims that their new touch screen device is an "iPhone killer" reason? they know that is the benchmark they have to beat!
All that aside you are missing the clearest indication that it is the benchmark for all smartphones IT is outselling all others WHY? because it gives people what they want. and that alone is the one feature that makes any device a benchmark to which others aspire.
Sony Ericsson's current policy of announcing devices months before they are ready, delivering them late, upstaged by more cutting edge devices and full of faults strikes me as being a benchmark for failure.
And their abysmal figures prove me to be correct.
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Posted: 2010-01-27 10:36:22
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On 2010-01-26 19:14:45, se_dude wrote:
The only way a device can destabilize the X10 from its current position is with HD recording. The X10 is the best looking Android handset yet announced. SE have done a double take by releasing the Vivaz alongside it.
Surely any device you can actually go out and buy now Nexus iPhone etc etc removes a device that is still unavailable from any "imagined" position? The X10 is STILL merely a prototype it has no "position" just a spec list and that is only as good as the paper its printed on. Apart from that it is one ugly MF compared to the Nexus
[ This Message was edited by: Nitro Fan on 2010-01-27 09:47 ]
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Posted: 2010-01-27 10:42:49
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@Nitro- Thats a new one.
Newaz, i wouldn't want you to choose a girl.Thats for sure. Would probably end up gettng ugly betty.
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Posted: 2010-01-27 11:05:09
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yeahh i think about 99% agree with that too
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Posted: 2010-01-27 11:55:40
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@Nitro Fan
Sorry mate but I have to disagree on your comment about the X10 trying to imitate the design of the iphone - in fact it's bollocks.
The X10 in no way even attempts to imitate the simple and clean lines of the iphone, the only thing they have in common is the form-factor. The Nexus may be, but the X10 no, absolute rubbish.
No-one with half decent eyesight could ever mistake the two.
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Posted: 2010-01-27 11:59:10
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Now I know where "Nitro" fan gets his name from. Get well soon dude.
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Posted: 2010-01-27 12:15:20
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@Nitro Fan.
Well I disagree with some things.
I mean - iPhone is not giving what people want.
iPhone is giving what people start to like once they touch it,
and that's a different story.
Believe me or not, there are many features people
need on iPhones which are not available there.
And Apple does not deliver....
The thing is most of these are bought by people
who have never used this kind of device before.
It's the device which has awaken some awarness
that your device is more capable that you imagined.
Bundled with Apple's position
it made a selling success.
If iPhone would not be a massive selling success
nobody would bother copying it.
As for design: X10 is beautiful and it's not a copy of iPhone
in any way.
Sorry but design simplicity is not invented by any Apple.
Nexus is plain ugly as 90% of HTC devices,
but it's all about my taste...
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Posted: 2010-01-27 12:45:46
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"I mean - iPhone is not giving what people want.
iPhone is giving what people start to like once they touch it,
and that's a different story"
200%agree! This is the only reason why apple still sells iphones...but when they realize the others are getting closer (and they are...android is the proof and symbian and WM will follow this year), apple will change their politics for sure.
But if apple starts to add better hardware like 8mp camara, xenon flash and somethings like that, they will be unbeatable
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Posted: 2010-01-27 13:30:19
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When every iphone owner i know (the guys of course) has to jailbreak it for functionality, I'll pass. The X10 is also, by far, much better looking than the iphone.
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Posted: 2010-01-27 14:28:47
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Nexus One vs. XPERIA X10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YW5nbVZPb4
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Posted: 2010-01-27 16:01:31
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