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moogoo Posts: > 500

@MNX - people get sick! say you have Xperiatitus Z1 strand..
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Posted: 2013-09-23 19:23:02
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miromiromi Posts: 481


On 2013-09-23 18:50:14, moogoo wrote:

On 2013-09-23 18:41:32, kurtdean wrote:
Z1 vs Note 3 camera shootout http://sonyviet.vn/2013/09/xp[....]-dau-camera-voi-galaxy-note-3/


Note 3 comes out on top based on THOSE photos. I hate to sound like a broken record, but I really hate these photo shootout comparisons that do not give all the details of settings, conditions, and full res images for examination..

in general, based on those photos, Note 3 has better color saturation and dynamic range and sharper photos. I really can't wait to get my Z1, get it updated, and take my own sample photos to really test the Z1's camera ability..



but you really have to admit that only the center of z1's photos look sharp. sony really needs to correct this. hopefully, this is not hardware-related. in almost all photos i've seen, softening immediately occurs outside the small focus area. the z1 fails to maintain sharpness in landscape photos. i really hope you can get better results once you get your z1.
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Posted: 2013-09-23 19:26:36
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MNX1024 Posts: 413

@Moogo As much as I like to take a sick day, was actually sick not too long ago, so it would be weird to take one again.
Just refreshed my tracking again.... This is turning out to be an addiction and an anxiety... Maybe I do have the Xperiatitus Z1 strand, shipping phase.....

Oh, and I bought the Sandisk Extreme MicroSDXC 64GB, can't wait till that comes too. Finally I can put my entire library in my phone, including all those FLAC files I've built up. It's been 2 years since I had my entire library in my phone.
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Posted: 2013-09-23 19:27:34
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MNX1024 Posts: 413


On 2013-09-23 19:26:36, miromiromi wrote:

but you really have to admit that only the center of z1's photos look sharp. sony really needs to correct this. hopefully, this is not hardware-related. in almost all photos i've seen, softening immediately occurs outside the small focus area. the z1 fails to maintain sharpness in landscape photos. i really hope you can get better results once you get your z1.


Just want to mention that the Z1's G Lens have an f-stop of 2.0. So depending on the focus used and/or aperature setting, you get the effect that you mention, which is called depth of field or commonly known as bokeh. Where only the focused area is, well, "focused" and everything is blurred out.
[ This Message was edited by: MNX1024 on 2013-09-23 18:33 ]

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Posted: 2013-09-23 19:32:25
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tyko Posts: 248

I dont believe the f-stop can be blaimed here, plenty of other phones have the same f-stop without blurry edges. Also, Shouldnt objects aligned at the focus point still be sharp?
[ This Message was edited by: tyko on 2013-09-23 18:49 ]

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Posted: 2013-09-23 19:48:19
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XperiaJunkie Posts: > 500

is off out soon to get some low light/night time shots, again I will use superior auto mode as I don't really have a clue when it comes to manual mode. The photos will be on here very soon.
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Posted: 2013-09-23 19:50:31
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moogoo Posts: > 500

@tyko - you are correct. even with F2.0, if objects are at the same distance from the camera, they should be just as sharp as the object being focused on. However, bokeh is affected not only by aperture but also focal length and lens to focal point distance. I intend to test the Z1 to determine if the blur on the edges is really bokeh or a software issue. Should be a fun experiment!


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Posted: 2013-09-23 20:01:26
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miromiromi Posts: 481


On 2013-09-23 19:32:25, MNX1024 wrote:

On 2013-09-23 19:26:36, miromiromi wrote:

but you really have to admit that only the center of z1's photos look sharp. sony really needs to correct this. hopefully, this is not hardware-related. in almost all photos i've seen, softening immediately occurs outside the small focus area. the z1 fails to maintain sharpness in landscape photos. i really hope you can get better results once you get your z1.


Just want to mention that the Z1's G Lens have an f-stop of 2.0. So depending on the focus used and/or aperature setting, you get the effect that you mention, which is called depth of field or commonly known as bokeh. Where only the focused area is, well, "focused" and everything is blurred out.
[ This Message was edited by: MNX1024 on 2013-09-23 18:33 ]



the problem is that it happens in superior auto mode for landscape pictures. you don't want landscape photos to have that kind of depth of field effect. as much as possible, most parts of the photo should be sharp.
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Posted: 2013-09-23 20:25:05
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Geoffxx Posts: 265


On 2013-09-23 18:36:11, Ambivalent_ wrote:

On 2013-09-23 18:23:11, XperiaJunkie wrote:
WOW nearly 3500 people have viewed my photos through my Google+ account does any one have anything to say about them, good or bad ?



I think they are great.


come on - who really took those photos


I have a shot that was taken with XZ XZU and tonight Z1 - I will post as soon as I get my chit together

night nite all
[ This Message was edited by: Geoffxx on 2013-09-23 19:34 ]

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Posted: 2013-09-23 20:29:12
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moogoo Posts: > 500

@miromiro - that's true. but Z1's aperture is fixed at f2.0 with a 27mm focal length. With a wide aperture and short focal length, depth of field is fairly good (i.e., it's not too shallow, but also not incredibly deep). The remaining factor then is distance from focal point to the lens. That, is up to the photographer. However, regardless, objects at the same distance from the lens as the focal point should be at the same level of sharpness throughout the photo. If Z1 is unable to produce a result like this, then it could be another factor that I am not aware of. I confess, I'm not super advanced in my knowledge of photography and lens tech perhaps razec can assist.
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Posted: 2013-09-23 20:33:38
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