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On 2008-09-17 15:24:33, valgargg wrote:
On 2008-09-17 15:10:23, AbuBasim wrote:
On 2008-09-17 14:30:21, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
I don't see why they'd change... I assume they just bolt that feature on and leave it fairly unchanged from model to model.
Still VGA-sized shots then?
The k850i does 9 pics with bestpic at full 5 mp resolution each pic, so like Oli said I dont think they would take a step back
Sorry, wrong! 
From the official video, count them! 1, 2....:
The official site also states 7 shots. It will be because of the high resolution probably.
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Posted: 2008-09-17 15:29:11
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unfortantly he is right
whitepaper also states 7 pics...
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Posted: 2008-09-17 15:34:04
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On 2008-09-17 10:35:53, AbuBasim wrote:
I got the shutter speed and exposure times the wrong way. I was looking at EXIF from i-mobile 902 photos and noticed that the shutter speed usually is shorter than the exposure time. (The i-mobile 902 has a mechanical shutter.) So I deduced incorrectly.
Thanks for the clarification, Marty.
Edit: Actually, I still think there's a reason why some cameras record different values for exposure time and shutter speed. The i-mobile 902 is not the only one doing this. Have a look at sassho's nice cat photo
here.
[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2008-09-17 12:20 ]
some phone cameras have physical shutters but I'm pretty sure those that do still use electronic shuttering. If you think about it like this, why have a real shutter at all if you can just time it electronically. So there is an advantage to a physical shutter which is probably something to do with responsiveness of the shutter and accuracy.
If that's the case the Exposure Time would need to be longer than the Shutter Speed, to allow a full open and close of the shutter. Maybe C905 have electronic shutter?
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Posted: 2008-09-17 16:08:52
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when is the release date ?
[ This Message was edited by: Radu_91 on 2008-09-17 15:46 ]
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Posted: 2008-09-17 16:33:34
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On 2008-09-17 16:08:52, max_wedge wrote:
If that's the case the Exposure Time would need to be longer than the Shutter Speed, to allow a full open and close of the shutter. Maybe C905 have electronic shutter?
But it's the the Shutter Speed that is longer than the Exposure Time. Not the other way round.
Plus if the exposure time was longer than the shutter speed, the photo wouldn't develop properly because it would have a brief period of black.
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[ This Message was edited by: Marty Mcfly on 2008-09-17 17:08 ]
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Posted: 2008-09-17 16:50:17
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On 2008-09-17 16:33:34, Radu_91 wrote:
when is the release date ?
Starts shipping 20th October.
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Posted: 2008-09-17 16:54:18
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when is it coming out on 3?
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Posted: 2008-09-17 19:13:13
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Just to clarify what I was saying earlier, that Exposure Time and Shutter Speed are the same thing:
This is the same C905 pictures' EXIF, viewed with two different programs. As you can see, the 1/1600 value is read by one program as Exposure Time, and the other as Shutter Speed.
The 1 sec value that is in the EXIF on the left which caused the confusion, I cannot see on any other EXIF program. They all say the same thing, and that is 1/1600. It seems to be common to Mobile Phone Cameras that a value of around 1 sec appears here. I don't know why though.
It is just data being confused as a something else in the EXIF it seems to me.
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[ This Message was edited by: marty mcfly on 2008-09-17 19:36 ]
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Posted: 2008-09-17 20:35:57
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If not completely wrong, digital cameras dont have a "real shutter", specially not small cell-phones and mayby therefor SE has choose to ignore this in the EXIF and only set that option to 1. Or its just a firwmare-bug
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Posted: 2008-09-17 22:36:58
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On 2008-09-17 22:36:58, Tobbis wrote:
If not completely wrong, digital cameras dont have a "real shutter", specially not small cell-phones and mayby therefor SE has choose to ignore this in the EXIF and only set that option to 1. Or its just a firwmare-bug
Digital cameras do have real shutters. Mobile phone cameras also have them.
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Posted: 2008-09-17 22:54:13
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