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THats where you're wrong, the next generation is going to be much much faster. Better DSP's for better sound, the MSM7200 processor has some really good sound performce this can be checked from Eldars
reviews on Mobile Review. Better than any previous WM phone. If you use the Tilt cam you'll know its unusable in low light, so I expect the next gen phone to have a decent flash.
Regarding the "Killer" application, with Snapdragon you can have OpenGL 2.0 support your UI can become beautiful
, WM7 should launch with snapdragon. Snapdragon will have enough power to run close to desktop performance. A smartphone is all baout being an extension to your PC and snapdragons going to get you 1 step closer to the goal of a portable computer. And its not just snap dragon its also the Nvidia processor and the OMPA3 which Dogmann mentioned boots S60 in a few seconds, faster is always better. Now thats revolutionary, it'll revolutionise performance. Search for Nvidia APX2500 videos as well, check out the UI its capable of, the iPhone UI looks like something ancient when compared to it. I'm not saying we will get those UI/s but its what might be available. Also multimedia features are far better with 720p output, and better battery performance.
For a few details on Snapdragon goto
www.qctconnect.com
Now I'm waaay OT
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Posted: 2008-06-04 21:09:54
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@askd
I have to say the latest released video's of Android in action also look really good as the OS is both fast and has lot's of user friendly options it looks as good if not better than the iPhones OS.
But yes the next generation of chips from all the different manufactures together with 7.2mbps HSDPA will indeed lead to a superior user experience. Hopefully this will be first half of next year and i also am waiting for next gen device before i upgrade as have decided the BB Bold doesn't offer enough for me to make the expense of a worthwhile.
Marc
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Posted: 2008-06-04 21:18:51
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On 2008-06-04 20:51:04, Dogmann wrote:
@WhyBe
You know you really are funny you asked a man at the Sony Style shop who will sell the X1 just what did you expect him yo say? It's having problems and competitors products will be as good or better. That's like going into a Ford garage and asking how great will this new Ford be.
He said, "Can I help you". I simply asked him about the availability date of the X1. "Not sure", he then made some statements over how often the X1 is asked about (more so than any other device in that store). He wasn't selling me anything.
As far as techie consumers the only ones really interested in the X1 are SE fans and there really aren't enough to make it a hit. If HTC's product is available with subsidy from Networks just who do you think will buy the X1 sim free seems a question you don't have an answer or opinion on.
Judging by this thread alone, it seems plenty of people will buy the X1. Everyone, I've shown this phone to drools over it. (Hell, I even still get a few slobbers over my old p910
It's all in the design.) Whether someone buys it SIM free or not I don't see the relevance. I, personally, will buy the SIM-free if the X1a is crippled. Based on it's design, price tag and brand name, I predict X1 will be a U.S. hit (it's a status thing here). Worldwide, I don't know and definitely not iPhone level sales (too expensive).
Re Eldar maybe it escaped your notice but he has an X1 and has just got new firmware for it so as far as who's information can be relied on his experience against what you think really there's no contest is there.
Are BengalBoy's reviews not valid?
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Posted: 2008-06-04 21:22:21
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@Whybe, you say it won’t be iphone level of demand/popular etc. but even the iphone has fallen well short of its predicted sales figures. How many iphones do you actually see around?
These do everything phones still seem generally lacklustre in the battery life department due to all the whizz-bang features, which is probably a lot of people’s no. 2 priority and would put a lot off, no. 1 being price of course.
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Posted: 2008-06-04 21:34:13
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On 2008-06-04 21:34:13, iwantfatty wrote:
@Whybe, you say it won’t be iphone level of demand/popular etc. but even the iphone has fallen well short of its predicted sales figures. How many iphones do you actually see around?
At my church, a sound tech guy, both the copastors, the guy working in the office. Also, my buddy the at&t saleman (who carries 4 phones around all the time)....that's five right there. I think the only reason iPhone didn't sell more is because of the availability.
Oh yeah, my musician buddy living in Arkansas...that's six.
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Posted: 2008-06-04 21:41:44
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On 2008-06-04 20:51:04, Dogmann wrote:
As far as techie consumers the only ones really interested in the X1 are SE fans
Totally NOT true.
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Posted: 2008-06-04 21:46:06
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haha fair enough, didnt know you lived in iphone town. But the demand has only just started now that there pulling them from stores due to 3G... I feel were going a bit off topic though
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Posted: 2008-06-04 21:48:22
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@WhyBe
The interest in this thread on a pro SE forum is not even in the hundreds so is hardly going to make a big impact on sales. As for all those that you have shown pictures of the device have you told them it will be $1,100 plus?
If you really think the majority are like you that will wait before upgrading and then take a non subsidized device you are just wrong. Prestige or not most people are far more careful with their hard earned $$$'s and as HTC has both Network support and better market presence in the US it would be quite remarkable for the X1 to sell more than HTC's offering.
As i have said before once it is released we will see just how well the X1 does but until then it's pointless just speculation isn't it.
@Nightblade
Yet another truly stunning and insightful post and just what do you base that on? as most WM users are used to HTC or the branded versions not SE with it's first WM product. No where near as many people love SE or think they are brilliant as you seem to think as otherwise SE wouldn't of slipped to 5th now would they?
Marc
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Posted: 2008-06-04 21:52:22
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I 100% agree with Dogmann. There is no way the phone could be worth that amount of money to more than a select few obsessive SE fans. The panel interface cannot really be that great, I have not been very convinced by what I have seen so far. It can’t be more than a show-off piece, or am I missing the point
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Posted: 2008-06-04 22:02:18
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On 2008-06-04 21:52:22, Dogmann wrote:
@WhyBe
As for all those that you have shown pictures of the device have you told them it will be $1,100 plus?
Yes
If you really think the majority are like you that will wait before upgrading and then take a non subsidized device you are just wrong. Prestige or not most people are far more careful with their hard earned $$$'s and as HTC has both Network support and better market presence in the US it would be quite remarkable for the X1 to sell more than HTC's offering.
SE has network support too. The are sold by AT&T. I don't know if they'll sell the X1 though.
As i have said before once it is released we will see just how well the X1 does but until then it's pointless just speculation isn't it.
This whole thread is, isn't it.
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Posted: 2008-06-04 22:02:43
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