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the p990 is ugly as sin, but while I like my phone to be nice looking, if the ergonomics and spec's are there then I can live wothout it. The most stylish camera phone SE have released is the T610, but there's no way I'm going back to 2MB of memory and puny camera
The K700 was still quite stylish, but the K750 is a brick. But I still class the K750 as the best phone I've ever owned in it's class.
Okay P990 is good looking in a charles bronson/david carridine sort of way - rugged, tough, purposeful. But Brad Pitt it ain't.
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Posted: 2006-02-20 10:40:48
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I for one love the P990i's looks - its front face anyway.
I just hate the rear of the phone, and the top where the silo and IR port are - ugly as hell.
@ ayk - of course it'll see the light of day, it might be out sooner than we all think.
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Posted: 2006-02-20 11:21:02
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On 2006-02-20 11:21:02, etaab wrote:
I for one love the P990i's looks - its front face anyway.
Phone style is such a personal thing, everyone is bound to be different in their preference for style. If you worry about whether you like a phone's looks or not you may have to forgo functunctionality in some cases. But if you happen to like the looks of a phone that does what you want then it's a bonus.
I'm being a bit harsh anyway, the only thing I really dislike about it is the same thing as the P910 - the flip should be a lot thinner. The P990 without the flip looks quite smick (still more rugged than pretty though), and if I owned one that's probably how I'd configure it, simply for the space saving aspect.
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Posted: 2006-02-20 11:50:46
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On 2006-02-19 11:00:00, ayk wrote:
@maxwedge&nitrofan,so u guys mean2say that information on esato has more precise specifications than on the manufacturer's site.
the information posted here is always copy/pasted from other sites.
u guys mean to say that esato has more exposure to the prototype of a product than mobilereview,than mobileburn,than bengalboy.i don't think so.
btw,i think se is just trying 2 compete with nokia.nokia made a non-camera smartphone 9300&se followed.
[ This Message was edited by: ayk on 2006-02-19 10:09 ]
Hi AYK,
what is all this "you mean to say" attitude? please drop it it is not the way we like to do things here thank you. You are indeed entitled to your opinion, as indeed so I am I, and yes I prefer to have the information on one site rather than chasing around on wap to see the information. As for some of the other sources you mention, one at least is more interested in flashing flesh than than talking phones and that is of no interest to me BTW I can check the other sites anytime I like to see what their take is on esato Ii like to see what esato's take is, in my experience its normaly spot on!
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P910i P900 T610 T68i all great phones Please Hurry Up P990!
[ This Message was edited by: Nitro Fan on 2006-02-20 12:32 ]
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Posted: 2006-02-20 13:21:14
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On 2006-02-19 11:00:00, ayk wrote:
@maxwedge&nitrofan,so u guys mean2say that information on esato has more precise specifications than on the manufacturer's site.
the information posted here is always copy/pasted from other sites.
u guys mean to say that esato has more exposure to the prototype of a product than mobilereview,than mobileburn,than bengalboy.i don't think so.
btw,i think se is just trying 2 compete with nokia.nokia made a non-camera smartphone 9300&se followed.
[ This Message was edited by: ayk on 2006-02-19 10:09 ]
Hi AYK,
what is all this "you mean to say" attitude? please drop it it is not the way we like to do things here thank you. You are indeed entitled to your opinion, as indeed so I am I, and yes I prefer to have the information on one site rather than chasing around on wap to see the information. As for some of the other sources you mention, one at least is more interested in flashing flesh than than talking phones and that is of no interest to me BTW I can check the other sites anytime I like to see what their take is on esato Ii like to see what esato's take is, in my experience its normaly spot on!
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P910i P900 T610 T68i all great phones Please Hurry Up P990!
[ This Message was edited by: Nitro Fan on 2006-02-20 12:32 ]
I agree.
@AYK:
Obviously esato isn't the only source, but so what if it's copy and pasted. All info on esato forum comes from links, cut and paste, or member's own experience and research. About specifications, where else would one get spec's apart from the SE site anyway? Even other board's that retype the info into their own format still get it from SE.
I also think SE are entitled to bring out a cameraless phone, especially a phone such as the W950. They had their own reasons for bringing out 2 highend cameraless phones (m600 and w950) and neither of them compete directly with the nokia cameraless phones so your point doesn't carry. If market research indicates that some consumers want cameraless phones wouldn't any manufacturer be remiss if they didn't bring atleast one highend cameraless phone to market?
And let's not forget that they also pioneered camera's in phones in the first place? (T610 anyone?)
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Posted: 2006-02-20 13:46:41
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@nitro & max, by using the term ^you mean to say^ i was asking what ur take on it was.
lol, attitude was the last thing on my mind.
mis-understanding cleared?
@max, i thought the 7650 was out before the t610? lol, if the k750 is brick what's the p990?
@etaab, seems like u got some inside info on the p990 release.
btw,guys i too wanna know what r the opinions of esato's members 'bout a phone,but i prefer to get the specs straight from the source.
[ This Message was edited by: ayk on 2006-02-20 15:12 ]
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Posted: 2006-02-20 16:00:00
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No not at all, but sometimes in the past when its been rumoured that a phone has been delayed, a few days or weeks later its appeared in our local Vodafone shop..
SE always seem to suprise me at the end of the day, just when you think somethings never going to happen, it happens with added extras.
Oh, and btw, the 7650 was not the first camera equiped mobile phone, and neither was the T610. I forget which phone it was, but it was neither SE or Nokia.
@ max_wedge - functionality is what matters to me the most right now. Theres a few things i dont like about the P990i, but they're aspects i can live with to ensure i get the functionality that i need.
The previous P series phones could not do what i wanted of them, and that is why ive always used a SE phone, and a seperate Windows based PDA combo. The P990i should now be able to do that, and if not, well i'll go back to Windows but keep the P990i also.
Unless Nokia tempt me with their N92 or N80.
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Posted: 2006-02-20 18:20:57
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Agree with what you say about functionality and pda's. I've held off on the P910 for exactly the same reason - compared to the K750 it's useful only for running symbian apps.
I use my XDAii for smartphone functions for the time being.
Actually I also find the size a turn off, so I'm sorta hoping something like the W950 with camera and wifi, that would be more suitable for me than the P990, as lovely a piece of kit that it is.
@ayk, the T610 was responsible for popularising the camera phone, that's what I meant by "pioneered". The first camera phone was introduced by Sharp, and it had a 100,000K camera. This resolution (352 by 288) the same as the T610.
The 7650 (and the sharp for that matter) never saw the mass market. They were high end phones destined for exclusive markets only. The T610 was the first non-smartphone mass consumer camera phone with a (sort of) decent resolution. There were some other mass produced camera phones with much lower resolution and were effectively useless whereas the T610 the pictures can actually be used for more than just displaying on the phone screen.
SE followed up with the K700, which was one of the first vga non-smartphone camera phones to hit the mass market. So SE are really responsible for popularising camera phones more than any other manufacturer.
Oh yeah, and I have no argument that the P990 is a brick. As I said to etaab, this has no bearing on the phones usefullness. I adore the P990, even if it is a brick.
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Posted: 2006-02-21 02:17:11
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A K750i and XDA II - a man after my own heart.
off topic i know, but do you remember which Sharp phone it was ? i thought it was a Sharp, but i dont remember the name of it. I dont think it was the GX10..
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Posted: 2006-02-21 18:48:17
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It was this one, the J-SH04, a japanese model.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1550622.stm
Not released anywhere else. My first digital camera was a 100K unit
It was a casio, and had superb colour reproduction and was very clear for it's low resolution.
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Posted: 2006-02-22 01:46:11
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