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jwar1976 Posts: 7


On 2008-09-22 04:06:16, naveedaziz83 wrote:
if i am not wrong, higher the iso higher the noise

so y do we need more noise



Aah I thought that higher ISO meant brighter pictures. My bad
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Posted: 2008-09-22 04:46:21
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corrupted Posts: 10

@ naveedaziz83 i hate pictures that get resized, i want to view it in it's original form and view the exif
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Posted: 2008-09-22 04:50:09
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max_wedge Posts: > 500


On 2008-09-22 04:46:21, jwar1976 wrote:

On 2008-09-22 04:06:16, naveedaziz83 wrote:
if i am not wrong, higher the iso higher the noise

so y do we need more noise



Aah I thought that higher ISO meant brighter pictures. My bad

It does mean a brighter picture, but also so much noise that the picture is unusable.

You need a really large sensor for any iso higher than 400 to be really effective (larger sensors have less noise at high iso). Phone cam sensors are simply too small for high iso's to be effective.


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Posted: 2008-09-22 04:57:18
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kamal4techtalk Posts: 34

Ya resizing the pictures makes them pixelated.
Orginal resolution pics have great clarity
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Posted: 2008-09-22 05:35:00
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Janbobejan Posts: 35


On 2008-09-22 04:57:18, max_wedge wrote:

On 2008-09-22 04:46:21, jwar1976 wrote:

On 2008-09-22 04:06:16, naveedaziz83 wrote:
if i am not wrong, higher the iso higher the noise

so y do we need more noise



Aah I thought that higher ISO meant brighter pictures. My bad

It does mean a brighter picture, but also so much noise that the picture is unusable.

You need a really large sensor for any iso higher than 400 to be really effective (larger sensors have less noise at high iso). Phone cam sensors are simply too small for high iso's to be effective.




You are saying, - phone cam sensors are simply too small for high iso's to be effective. Hmmm . . . have a look at the INNOV8 bud Is fine with me if you are confussed, but please, don't confuse others !
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Posted: 2008-09-22 08:30:21
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plankgatan Posts: > 500


On 2008-09-22 04:06:16, naveedaziz83 wrote:
if i am not wrong, higher the iso higher the noise

so y do we need more noise



of course you right... people often mix this things wrong. im super-duper glad that SE took this manuell ISO-setiings away on C902. it didnt do any good anyway.
C902 is a good example that automatic ISO works good. its very seldom the pictures uses wrong ISO.

im glad C905 followed C902 example with NO manuell ISO. manuell ISO settings on cell phones suxs. it makes more bad then good


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the point with manuell ISO (on example K850) was there so you could force the camera to use a higher ISO (even in brighter conditions), the thought was right, but it never became very good in the real world.
manuell ISO works just good on real cameras with bigger lenses & bigger sensors. (there you actually can use a higher ISO and still get normal noise-level)
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-09-22 08:03 ]
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Posted: 2008-09-22 08:32:38
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AbuBasim Posts: > 500


On 2008-09-22 08:32:38, plankgatan wrote:
im super-duper glad that SE took this manuell ISO-setiings away on C902. it didnt do any good anyway.

Glad to not have the choice? Manual ISO selection is not just to increase the ISO but also to decrease it. If you want to shoot a really good photo with low noise then you would choose an ISO speed of 100 or less. On the C902 this option is not there...
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Posted: 2008-09-22 09:54:41
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Raiderski Posts: > 500

manual ISO sucks? not if you know how to use it and what benefits it can bring (yes, it can)

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[ This Message was edited by: Raiderski on 2008-09-22 08:56 ]
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Posted: 2008-09-22 09:55:21
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yea g Posts: > 500

does the c905 have no manual iso? I have one acronym:wtf
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Posted: 2008-09-22 10:12:28
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Dart5 Posts: 168


On 2008-09-21 21:20:08, jwar1976 wrote:
. . . I honestly feel that the new LG KC910 which is due next month will be the handset of the year as that has the VGA capture as well as the same flash as the SE C905 & has all the other camera features like face recognition etc etc.


Yea, feel the same way. Unless Nokia pull something out of the hat at the last minute, when my contract runs out next months I won't be getting a replacement SE for the 1st time is years. Otherwsie it will be the KC910.
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Posted: 2008-09-22 10:14:18
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