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well... my (17yo) son has kept his K800 as second phone for mucking around, doing parcours/skating etc etc but prefers his N95
however... he has now given the K850 "full approval" and though he says the N95 still does better images and video he has declared that he "wants one"!
for me, unfortunately I'm bored already. I think I just can't live with a device that doesnt have a touch screen any more as any other input just sees archaic unfortunately
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Posted: 2007-10-16 00:31:17
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I agree plankgatan, I think it is a firmware issue.
I hope they do give us the choice.
Im extremely happy with the photos and today We have been compairing the K800, K810, K850, N95 and The New samsung G600
The K850 took most the best shots, with the N95 coming in at a close second, The K810-K800 were both respectable but what shocked us was the Samsung, It was just poor, colours didnt look right, nor did the camera fous well which was a shame.
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Posted: 2007-10-16 00:33:47
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Received my K850 from 02 today!! BUT.... they sent me blue
they told me it would be green, but it doesnt look as bad as it does on the pics, the silver doesnt look all that bad (but would look better all black imo)
Nothing as regard to locking up/freezing/crashing though as said, does seem a bit slow as of yet, hopefully a firmware upgrade in the not too distand future will cure that.
Photos look fantastic, im impressed with the video recording improvement too, much better than k800, and the camera shutter with blue led ring is just ultra cool. The 'touch screen' works briliantly, very responsive, mine came with 512mb M2, but the 1G from my k800 has gone straight in, and the the faux suade wriststrap (From the k810?) is nice too. Gonna be keeping a glasses lens cleaner cloth with me to keep that gloss black nice and shiny though! haha
As of yet, well done SE, its living up to my expectations
But anyone else finding the keys uncomfortable to use?
Oh and where can I find an SE 'workshop' to DPY flash my phone? How much is this or is it done under warranty?
[ This Message was edited by: minxymears on 2007-10-16 00:42 ]
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Posted: 2007-10-16 01:08:33
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On 2007-10-16 00:31:17, masseur wrote:
well... my (17yo) son has kept his K800 as second phone for mucking around, doing parcours/skating etc etc but prefers his N95
however... he has now given the K850 "full approval" and though he says the N95 still does better images and video he has declared that he "wants one"!
for me, unfortunately I'm bored already. I think I just can't live with a device that doesnt have a touch screen any more as any other input just sees archaic unfortunately
I'm happy with a hardscreen device as my main handset, though mainly because I've not been happy with the camera in the htc devices I've owned and I can't really afford to just go out and buy the one that will suit my needs. So I've always opted for a Kseries as my main handset for everday use. I tried using my N70, but honestly I just can't get into Nokia UI, it irritates, and a hardscreen smartphone just seems so pointless to me, as you say, the input is archaic.
My hope is that SE will release a UIQ3 K series, with dpad and normal keypad, but touchscreen as well.
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Posted: 2007-10-16 01:48:57
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On 2007-10-15 10:16:40, AbuBasim wrote:
On 2007-10-15 07:13:27, Prom1 wrote:
* I for one love to be able to take a photo in a club - a PUBLIC environment to capture a peaceful or fun moment. A couple - that I personally ASKED for permission to take a photo within 5mins no later (so they knew if getting extra close I would NOT take a photo of them) - and they said yes. It was magic to see to ppl that cared about each other enjoying the same thing.
By the way,
what was the couple doing?
Actually there were hugging one another & smiling.
I was feeling really sad that my girlfriend didn't come with me that night
Take a look
http://bunamp857.blogspot.com
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Posted: 2007-10-16 02:12:27
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On 2007-10-16 01:48:57, max_wedge wrote:
On 2007-10-16 00:31:17, masseur wrote:
well... my (17yo) son has kept his K800 as second phone for mucking around, doing parcours/skating etc etc but prefers his N95
however... he has now given the K850 "full approval" and though he says the N95 still does better images and video he has declared that he "wants one"!
for me, unfortunately I'm bored already. I think I just can't live with a device that doesnt have a touch screen any more as any other input just sees archaic unfortunately
I'm happy with a hardscreen device as my main handset, though mainly because I've not been happy with the camera in the htc devices I've owned and I can't really afford to just go out and buy the one that will suit my needs. So I've always opted for a Kseries as my main handset for everday use. I tried using my N70, but honestly I just can't get into Nokia UI, it irritates, and a hardscreen smartphone just seems so pointless to me, as you say, the input is archaic.
My hope is that SE will release a UIQ3 K series, with dpad and normal keypad, but touchscreen as well.
No WAY! to both of you .... I loathe touchscreen!
* Maybe you guys don't have dry screen and don't need to use cream
(oil smudges/cream smudges on the touchscreen is a pain to get off even with soft cloth.)
* To me touchscreen is great for signatures, but how often does the avg person use this?! Remember we went from paper > digital touchscreens to hard-keys> back again to smaller touchscreen displays.
For quick and efficient data entry NOTHING beats physical buttons:
Not prediction with few buttons
Not voice to text entry
not touch screen
Nadda NOTHING.
With today's technology cpu's are STILL not advanced enough and software is STILL not efficient enough to recognize so many accents, uniqueness of voice pitch (phrases, emphasis, etc) to work with EVERY1's own voice for voice to text. its getting better but not there yet. Show me 1 tablet PC that can allow handwriting recognition from the worlds fastest handwriting/printer (not hunt&peck) compared to Claris keyboard typing.
Paper STILL rules because it provides the best friction to allow minimal resistance to physical handwriting.
Tablet PC's are good because the screen is large enough to read icons & character input even or those with less than 20/20 vision without eyestrain and good for onscreen keyboard to be EFFECTIVELY used as a real keyboard. However Hybrid/Convertible Tablet PC's (those with a real physical keyboard) outsell sole screen+Stylus entry Tablets 90-1 in worldwide sales.
(sry a bit off topic)
Preferably I'd live to see the K850i with say a 2.3/2.4 screen (slightly wider in portrait mode) with UIQ3 (non-touch screen). And another UIQ3 Smartphone but with full-qwerty with landscape layout not M600 type portait mode.
UIQ3 is a clear evolution for the Kseries Cybershot line. more power more complex applications without sacrificing incredible Java support and allow higher clarity & sharp screens!
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Posted: 2007-10-16 02:48:12
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Hey, each to their own
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Posted: 2007-10-16 02:53:41
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On 2007-10-16 02:48:12, Prom1 wrote:
No WAY! to both of you .... I loathe touchscreen!
* Maybe you guys don't have dry screen and don't need to use cream
(oil smudges/cream smudges on the touchscreen is a pain to get off even with soft cloth.)
* To me touchscreen is great for signatures, but how often does the avg person use this?! Remember we went from paper > digital touchscreens to hard-keys> back again to smaller touchscreen displays.
For quick and efficient data entry NOTHING beats physical buttons:
Not prediction with few buttons
Not voice to text entry
not touch screen
Nadda NOTHING.
With today's technology cpu's are STILL not advanced enough and software is STILL not efficient enough to recognize so many accents, uniqueness of voice pitch (phrases, emphasis, etc) to work with EVERY1's own voice for voice to text. its getting better but not there yet. Show me 1 tablet PC that can allow handwriting recognition from the worlds fastest handwriting/printer (not hunt&peck) compared to Claris keyboard typing.
Paper STILL rules because it provides the best friction to allow minimal resistance to physical handwriting.
Tablet PC's are good because the screen is large enough to read icons & character input even or those with less than 20/20 vision without eyestrain and good for onscreen keyboard to be EFFECTIVELY used as a real keyboard. However Hybrid/Convertible Tablet PC's (those with a real physical keyboard) outsell sole screen+Stylus entry Tablets 90-1 in worldwide sales.
(sry a bit off topic)
Preferably I'd live to see the K850i with say a 2.3/2.4 screen (slightly wider in portrait mode) with UIQ3 (non-touch screen). And another UIQ3 Smartphone but with full-qwerty with landscape layout not M600 type portait mode.
UIQ3 is a clear evolution for the Kseries Cybershot line. more power more complex applications without sacrificing incredible Java support and allow higher clarity & sharp screens!
Well, when I use a touchscreen, I use character recognition, and once you are used to it it's quite fast. mib and I had an argument about this very factor, but for me I am too clutzy to use t9 fast. Oh, I'm no slouch, but for me I simply find being able to write on the touchscreen much easier and faster than a keypad. And tiny qwerty is just a joke (for me that is, I'm not saying it's so for everyone). But for me my fingers jumble over eachother and it's useless.
The other main drawcard of the touchscreen is the ability to draw on it, and also the ability to cut and paste, drag and drop and other "mouse like" uses of the touchscreen.
No matter what you say, for someone who prefers this style of input, a hardscreen simply can't compete. And a touchscreen combined with intelligently placed buttons can have the best of both worlds.
btw, I am NOT a fan of the iphone, because it has NO buttone at all. So as you can see I'm not a fan of touchscreen only devices, but imho to have a touchscreen and buttons increases flexibility.
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Posted: 2007-10-16 03:33:04
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k850-boys & girls......you MUST try this with your phones, make sure you have at least 20 pics in the phone...then look at one pic, (wait to the "play/forward" logo diseaper)...then press one time...and you will se "silens//sad//romantic//happy//energy"...press example on happy....look whats happends !!!!....realy funny stuff....its called X-Pict story...the pictures dancing around in different ways with music ...he he he...well done
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Posted: 2007-10-16 10:31:15
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On 2007-10-16 10:31:15, plankgatan wrote:
k850-boys & girls......you MUST try this with your phones, make sure you have at least 20 pics in the phone...then look at one pic, (wait to the "play/forward" logo diseaper)...then press one time...and you will se "silens//sad//romantic//happy//energy"...press example on happy....look whats happends !!!!....realy funny stuff....its called X-Pict story...the pictures dancing around in different ways with music ...he he he...well done
Yeh, that's the slideshow feature.
Didn't you know about it?
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Posted: 2007-10-16 10:48:55
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