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What is so unsettling in the Smartphone (Research and Development) is the time to market new devices in the case of the X1 it is slightly older, Just the MSM7200 with hardware acceleration enabled by Qualcomm,S.E bought the license, Not sure if its a subsidy or a flat out payment (say 10 million US)
all these manufactures "big up" these phone, then release them next Epoch, By that time every one caught up, and gone one better lol
I have never owned an Apple product, due to the Itunes and copywright etc, But ironically for so short in the Phone market they are Light years ahead, The structural foundation of hardware and software is Top class,
btw the blackberry 9000 seem very promising,
I most admit I do like my eye candy and TAT are doing some beautiful GUI
absolutely ethereal, they working with the OMAP3,
COME ON HTC!!! PUT IN A MSM7850 in your revision of the TOUCH PRO and call it the XTREME, and release it lik NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 2008-06-17 13:45:38
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On 2008-06-17 12:05:46, Dogmann wrote:
@Chombos
They can't just add it at release it's down to hardware not tweaking the software so that is just never going to happen even in yours and WhyBe's wildest dreams.
Also if you don't realise the huge difference between QVGA and VGA there really is very little point discussing this any further you carry on believing what ever makes you happy.
I am not the one that is trying to claim the X1 has great multimedia as quite obviously it doesn't and won't.
@WhyBe
Suddenly you've gone form saying how wonderful the 3.5" screen is to well it's not important which is just typical of an SE fan. Anything they don't have or support is always nothing important or special until SE has it an then suddenly it's the best thing ever. Freaking funny or what!!
Yet again stop trying to prove an as yet unreleased device is the best and wait till it's released and we can all judge then on what is delivered.
But so far i still can't see one thing that the X1 is going to be better at than my long released and in the market and being used E90. The only advantage it has is for those that want it is a touchscreen and not all of us do as many of us prefer a better, easier to read in all conditions screen instead.
@Dogmann
Geesh man, you're really spinning and misquoting TODAY!
You were wrong about the h.264 decoding.
I love the WVGA screen, never said it wasn't important.
The e90 isn't pocket sized or sexy as X1
QVGA is not a factor for the X1i (only the X1a).
If the X1 decodes h.264 VGA @ 30fps, there's nothing for you to complain about.
I bet the e90 is a great phone...you can even stand under it when it rains.
The X1 can't do that! 
@p85w--Sorry, I missed that.
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-06-17 13:27 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-17 14:24:42
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Hi dogman.
Did you read my post?... I doubt.
The point was. (in case you don't know)
P990 - P1 - ... All have the capability to playback H.264 @30fps. And none of them have the ability to record (encode) 30fps H.264
(real time H.264 encoding is very CPU intensive)
I was saying that decoding H.264 does not require all the hardware that is nessesary for encoding it.
(( and can you show me, where i compared QVGA and VGA resolutions?? ))
And regarding the wishful thinking: did you noticed that SE upgraded the RAM to 256MB?... So an upgrade in the hardware is not impossible.
Hehehe... I never thought that someday someone tell me that i don't know the difference between QVGA and VGA. After 4 years of working on graphic algorithms and image processing... ...
Let me ask you a question...
What was the point of creating H.264 when i can have better quality with an ancient cinepack codec?
The answer is that i will have a better quality/size ratio.
And thats all about this.
Anyway... I am not an X1 defender. But the facts are facts wether you like it or not.
The X1 DOES have the ability to flawlessly playback
WVGA@30fps video.
Good luck man.
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Posted: 2008-06-17 14:47:50
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Clearly states h264 decoding???
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Posted: 2008-06-17 18:11:38
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Hi WhybE
Sorry but i don't accept what Chombos is saying as it is not VGA H.264 as he claims. Which is why if you read many of threads here people need something like Coreplayer to play H.264 properly and in Sync and in VGA.
Well done everyone knows the E90 isn't small but if size is so important to buy a nice looking thin device and pay the price in cut down abilities. But as i never put any phone in a pocket but in a nice leather case that goes on my waist the weight isn't a problem for a big strong man like myself
after all it's only 210gms not pounds.
As i have said before i will happily take the larger size and weight for a 4" screen and 57 key keyboard as opposed to saving a little and getting a cut down keyboard instead. Plus of course all the other things my E90 does that the X1 can't and will of done for so long before we even see the X1 released never mind if it will be stable or not.
@Chombos well how about here where you say
"no man.... not correct.
even my P990 - P1 - K850 - W910 - ..... can all play (((H.264 format)))
QVGA@30fps... "
I think that's where you say it is indeed QVGA and not VGA is it not? So OK then why do so many people complain and have trouble paying VGA H.264 files and need to resort to using Coreplayer then? or H.263 or 3gp files instead then?
@Mobamn
We know it can encode H.264 but only @15fps VGA.
Marc
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Posted: 2008-06-17 21:34:59
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@ Dogmann
I don't know much about encoding, but does H.264 30fps make a noticeably difference?
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Posted: 2008-06-17 21:46:30
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On 2008-06-17 21:46:30, C905 wrote:
@ Dogmann
I don't know much about encoding, but does H.264 30fps make a noticeably difference?
on a phone, i doubt it will.
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Posted: 2008-06-17 21:49:47
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Why not just test it on the touch diamond somebody on esato has one I think.
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Posted: 2008-06-17 21:53:28
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X1 preview:
http://www.boygeniusreport.co[....]ony-ericsson-xperia-x1-review/
The device is really high-end, except for the keyboard (at least for BGR
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Posted: 2008-06-17 21:58:39
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On 2008-06-17 21:53:28, Yakkaimono wrote:
Why not just test it on the touch diamond somebody on esato has one I think.
Aaah...a voice of reason.
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Posted: 2008-06-17 21:59:54
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