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Lonewolf223 Posts: 361

The deal is between the semi conductor division and light
Its for every oem who can pay
Not sony mobile exclusive
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Posted: 2019-03-02 18:36:32
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vivftp Posts: > 500


On 2019-03-02 18:36:32, Lonewolf223 wrote:
The deal is between the semi conductor division and light
Its for every oem who can pay
Not sony mobile exclusive


Yup, Sony should be making a ton more money if each phone comes with at least 4 cameras on the back

At least The Verge seems to believe this deal also means Sony Mobile will be getting this tech:

https://www.theverge.com/2019[....]ership-multi-camera-smartphone


I can't say I've seen many other articles claim that Sony themselves will be implementing this tech in their phones
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Posted: 2019-03-02 19:04:27
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Ppl Posts: > 500

10+ camera samples are on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Sony[....]_samples_and_more_impressions/

Seems like both the front and tele cams are using Samsung sensors.

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Posted: 2019-03-02 21:04:08
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

Usually the 12MP 1/3.4" are isocell.
I hope the other cams of 1 are not.
Isocell are cheaper and weaker.




https://sumahoinfo.com/post-30802
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-03-03 09:57 ]

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Posted: 2019-03-02 21:54:10
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Lonewolf223 Posts: 361

Why should sony rely on Samsung for image sensors?
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Posted: 2019-03-03 11:58:56
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vivftp Posts: > 500

Those 10+ samples on Reddit aren't bad, and like they mention in that discussion Imgur compresses the photos so those aren't fully quality. Hopefully the poster uploads the full quality ones soon as promised. Even still, the amount of detail and lack of noise that we're used to seeing on Xperias at full zoom is nice. Plus I don't think we even have confirmation that the 10 series is using the same post processing method as the 1 where it applies noise filtering to the raw file then compresses to JPEG a the interview posted earlier only mentions this method being used on the 1.

BTW, someone posted in the Xperia 1 thread that Sony Mobile is now part of the imaging division. I asked for a source but didn't get one. Anyone happen to have a link with this info?
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Posted: 2019-03-03 13:06:36
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

Phones now use less resolution, of course there will be less noise.

P20 Pro looks ugly at 40, but way better at 10.
Same for mi9 48 and 12.
Same for XZ1/XZ2/XZ3 19 and 12.

Isocell are cheaper, maybe it is costs cutting.
Sony has 1/3" and 1/4" but I dont think they same something between, so it is easier to buy 1/3.4" from Samsung than developing new sensors.
The tele and ultra wide seem to be isocell too. Same specs of what Sammy uses.

Gsma usully takes pics from same scenes, so the best way to compare 10+ vs XA2+ is to download similar pics, turn 23MP into 12MP. Then compare both.

Honestly, they look better than op6 or mi8.
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Posted: 2019-03-03 13:23:17
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Shino03 Posts: > 500


On 2019-03-03 13:06:36, vivftp wrote:
Those 10+ samples on Reddit aren't bad, and like they mention in that discussion Imgur compresses the photos so those aren't fully quality. Hopefully the poster uploads the full quality ones soon as promised. Even still, the amount of detail and lack of noise that we're used to seeing on Xperias at full zoom is nice. Plus I don't think we even have confirmation that the 10 series is using the same post processing method as the 1 where it applies noise filtering to the raw file then compresses to JPEG a the interview posted earlier only mentions this method being used on the 1.

BTW, someone posted in the Xperia 1 thread that Sony Mobile is now part of the imaging division. I asked for a source but didn't get one. Anyone happen to have a link with this info?



I just copied that statement from techrader. Sorry, I was a bit busy.
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Posted: 2019-03-03 15:10:07
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

@viv You can download from gsma. They always post with full quality. They have few from 10 and 10+ ...

I hope L3 got better performance too
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Posted: 2019-03-03 16:12:37
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vivftp Posts: > 500

Thanks.

Yeah, I found it interesting because if mobile gets rolled into imaging then in future earnings reports mobile probably wouldn't appear as a separate category anymore. Not to mention if it's part of imaging then we're more likely to see even more crossover between the imaging departments tech and mobile I think.



On 2019-03-03 16:12:37, Hawk12 wrote:
@viv You can download from gsma. They always post with full quality. They have few from 10 and 10+ ...

I hope L3 got better performance too


Yeah, I've been comparing the 10+ shots to the XZ3 and while there's obviously less overall detail due to the difference in megapixel count, what is there is overall cleaner and more pleasing than the XZ3. It makes me very hopeful for the results the X1 will give.

I like that Sony continues to deal with the biggest issues with their devices. Poor camera performance seems to be dealt with now. Odd fingerprint sensor placement from last year is dealt with now. Already slim bezels are even slimmer while not including an ugly notch or cutout. It is a shame they removed the wireless charging that was on the XZ3 as that's just a negative against the phone they didn't necessarily have to incur.

Anyways, glad they're moving in a good direction and hope they continue to try and innovate with each iteration instead of just do small, incremental upgrades.
[ This Message was edited by: vivftp on 2019-03-03 15:36 ]

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Posted: 2019-03-03 16:17:27
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