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Nope, that might be the X-Panel button, can you link me to any reference to this hardware touchFLo button? If it was posted somewhere it is surely a mistake as no HTC has a touch Flo button either.
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Posted: 2008-06-19 14:40:10
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On 2008-06-19 14:40:10, aksd wrote:
Nope, that might be the X-Panel button, can you link me to any reference to this hardware touchFLo button? If it was posted somewhere it is surely a mistake as no HTC has a touch Flo button either.
It was mentioned in one of the posts in BengalBoy's review. It didn't make sense to me either. I think the button in question is the non-operational screen orientation button. Here's the quote that made me wonder:
Over at esato, a few weeks back, 1 guy claimed that x1 will hav touchflo and the orientation key will become a dedicated key for touchflo. Atleast i didnt believe him as it sounded way too good to be true. But, now u say, there is a possibility of getting touchflo with x1. So, maybe, the orientation key will become a dedicated touchflo key and x1 will have auto orientation.
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Posted: 2008-06-19 14:46:47
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@ whybe
Well, i m the one that wrote abt it. A few weeks back, i read abt it on esato itself. I didnt even believe that X1 will come with touchflo but now Bengalboy says there is a good chance of this being true. So, i thought maybe the entire assumption was right. I cant find the post right now to show you. I also know that touchflo doesnt need any dedicated key but you never know whats on the mind of the ppl at SE. They might be developing something on the lines of touchflo and might name it something else. Who cares anyway. I m pretty excited abt what kind of softwares might be getting developed at handango for xperia
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Posted: 2008-06-19 16:11:37
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That might be an error on his part. From a logical perspective dont you think its absolutel hillarious that a today screen plugin gets activated/deactivated by the touch of a button? What it might mean is that you can enable/disable Kinetic scrolling not the Today plugin. Imagine how much RAM they'd need then. As far as I know the Diamond uses approxiamtely close to 50MB for the UI, SE with their today plugin + 3D animation panel will require a bit more than that imo so say 120MB for both plugins together, the OS will require another 40-50 MB or more in reality as the screen is larger more info to process, that makes it 170MB then yuo have the startup programs another 5-10MB say 180MB that leaves the user with 70MB which is highly unlikely imo and this is calculating on the least possible RAM.
Now also imagine that the conflicts arising between these two interfaces and its toll on the processor, TOuchFLo itself is sometimes laggy imagine touchflo + 3D panels, LOL! You might as well use a 6600 it would end up faster dont you think
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Now what can be a possibility, is if Manila/TOuchFlo 2.0 is successfully extracted you can disable panels and use TOuchFlo 2.0, this
might be a possibility, but it definatley wont be assigned to a hardware button.
HAndango do not develop software they just sell them. @Whybe this is what I mean earlier when I said dont mislead people about app development. What Handango are doing is asking devs to port their apps to the WVGA res of the X1 and to make future apps X1 compatible THAT IS ALL. You're not going to see some break through stuff that will make you in awe of how amazing the X1 is when compared to another WM device OS, they both will be the same, HTC will have its pre installed app and the SE X1 will have a few HTC preinstaled apps + SE's preinstalled media player, today plugin and a few others bits.
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Posted: 2008-06-19 16:26:57
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I get it. I just thought that bengalboy's x1 can run panels smoothly even with 128 mb RAM. So, if SE added the extra 128mb, they might be developing something big that requires more RAM than the old proto. And about the orientation key, i assumed that x1 will have auto orientation either via hardware or software and the orientation button will be used for something else. So, i thought that it could be for touchflo but thats a wrong logic on my part. I just hope that SE manages to pull this 1 off as i have a lot of expectations from it.
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Posted: 2008-06-19 17:06:02
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I very much doubt bengal boys SE X1 has all the preinstalled apps that will debut with the retail X1. Also what was the free RAM on bengalboys unit, anything less that 50 MB would make it quite pathetic at multitasking when comapred to current gen phones. SE will have a bit more eyecandy for use in the form of image viewers, mediaplayer etc.. and if the panel is auto loaded along with all apps such as media player, rss feeds, several types of today screens image viewer etc.. it would require a lot of RAM. Thats the case with the DIamond, all the apps on the today screen see to be loaded onto the RAM.
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Posted: 2008-06-19 17:39:11
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Here again a little preview video i found, here you can see that its much faster, but tha bad news is that tha site is dutch
http://www.allaboutphones.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2851#hfd5
Peace
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Posted: 2008-06-19 19:06:56
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Thanks for clearing that up rontysee.
@aksd:
I will keep an eye on the BengalBoy thread for the remaining RAM (I'm assuming you're unable to access it?).
As far as Handango developing apps, I never said or alluded to them doing so. If people interpret my words or read between the lines incorrectly, I can't really control that beyond being clear and providing links
The main point though, is that software is being developed with the X1 specifically in mind. That's a good thing. Whether or not it's being developed by company A, or B, or someone's grandmother, is irrelevant at this point
I'm trusting
will do the right things regarding having sufficient RAM for the X1 program execution. Bumping from 128MB to 256MB is indication they are watching closely. What's a realistic amount of free RAM available for a WM device?
I also just saw the post on BB stating that the X1 does indeed have stereo speakers. WOW, how do they squeeze all of that into such a small package? I think Sony has magic elves that work for them
I don't know the value of stereo speakers on a unit so small (they must sound like crap), but if they're there, then so be it
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@Dogmann
Here is a link of the X1 playing an h.264 video VGA @ 30fps...and you say your e90 only plays h.264 at 24fps???
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-06-19 21:17 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-19 20:29:42
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Thanks WhyBe for the links
Peace
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Posted: 2008-06-19 22:28:50
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With 192MB RAM on board on the Diamond you have 50MB free
With 128MB on board on the TyTn II you've got about 65MB free
It really depends how many apps are loaded onto the RAM due to the panel and how much RAM the panel consumes. Also WM6.1 is a bigger RAM hog than WM6. Plus VGA apps consume more RAM than QVGA apps. I'm assuming we should have 100MB free RAM at boot on the X1 which is sufficent.
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Posted: 2008-06-20 05:21:39
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