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Thanks aksd:
So what's the typical WM program's RAM consumption? I know it varies, but are we talking approximately 1, 2, 5, or 10MB?
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Posted: 2008-06-20 05:48:33
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It really depends.
But a 1MB application on a QVGA device if written in native should consume about 2-3MB on a VGA device due to the more information to be processed.
It really depends, I just checked playing Music on coreplayer on the TyTn II consumes 6MB RAM. And I imagine it should be a wee bit more on a VGA screen, 8-10MB.
Some apps will hardly take a few hundred kb of RAM, so it really depends on the apps you are running, with about 60MB of free RAM I can open quite a few applications > 10 actually, and nobody needs so many apps open at the same time now do they
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More RAM actually benefits in other ways, part of the RAM I've used to enlarge the caches, that makes the phone faster as more information maybe cached and produced on demand rather than reloading everything. Part of my RAM has been converted into a RAM disk for temporary internet files. So starting out at about 60MB I've got 45MB free, which is more than enough for basic day to day running.
I hope this answers your questions.
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Posted: 2008-06-20 06:25:01
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Yes, thanks, it does aksd
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Posted: 2008-06-20 06:46:38
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Looks like what I was talking about is happening ........HTC are going to release a device based probably based on next gen platform THIS YEAR Q4!!(speculation hmmmm) what do you think windows mobile 7 2009 Q1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i told you so
http://phonereport.info/2008/[....]d-q4-windows-mobile-7-q1-2009/
hmmmm i wonder what this device is going to be running android lol
msm7850 perhaps
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Posted: 2008-06-20 14:32:50
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On 2008-06-20 14:32:50, Humble wrote:
Looks like what I was talking about is happening ........HTC are going to release a device based probably based on next gen platform THIS YEAR Q4!!(speculation hmmmm) what do you think windows mobile 7 2009 Q1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i told you so
http://phonereport.info/2008/[....]d-q4-windows-mobile-7-q1-2009/
hmmmm i wonder what this device is going to be running android lol
msm7850 perhaps
I think you're reading too much into that article. At best, something will be
announced at the end of this year, not released. HTC aren't going to cannibalize their Touch Pro and Diamond sales so soon. It will be interesting to see how both the Android and WM7 devices turn out, though.
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Posted: 2008-06-20 16:04:00
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I may just hold out till December and see whats HTC have under their sleeves, I agree with you Whybe, It would seem a Tad illogical moments after releasing Touch Diamond/ Pro to release something straight away.....We'll just have to wait and see, But looks like the wheels turning alittle faster, Maybe They need to Have a head start on other Manufacturers,
The choice is between Android and WM7
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Posted: 2008-06-20 16:27:21
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@aksd
I asked BengalBoy about his RAM after boot and he says 33.37MB remaining after boot. Which, at first, seemed a little discouraging until he noted that he was still using a 128MB X1
Wow, does he really have a 128MB unit with panels running that smoothly?
So much for the theory about the additional RAM (256MB total) being added to get the panels working properly (or whatever that theory was
). Whose theory was that, anyways?
BB also stated that he will be getting a commercial unit in a week or so. He'll have more info on the
apps coming in a few days.
@Dogmann
I hope you still have the box to your e90 so you can sell it on eBay. You should still be able to fetch a nice amount for it before the X1 hits the market.
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Posted: 2008-06-20 19:31:51
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On 2008-06-20 19:31:51, WhyBe wrote:
@aksd
I asked BengalBoy about his RAM after boot and he says 33.37MB remaining after boot. Which, at first, seemed a little discouraging until he noted that he was still using a 128MB X1
Wow, does he really have a 128MB unit with panels running that smoothly?
So much for the theory about the additional RAM (256MB total) being added to get the panels working properly (or whatever that theory was
). Whose theory was that, anyways?
BB also stated that he will be getting a commercial unit in a week or so. He'll have more info on the
apps coming in a few days.
@Dogmann
I hope you still have the box to your e90 so you can sell it on eBay. You should still be able to fetch a nice amount for it before the X1 hits the market.
You know why they've increased the RAM
, that because the panels are just not panels, the Bengal Boy has the first build which did not inergrate the apps into the panels, more like show pieces with most of the apps bieng non functional. After intergration and loading up of all the panel apps in the final version I'm sure will take a whole lot more RAM upto 2 times more in fact than the stand alone panels. The panels are going to replicate the Touch DIamonds today screen plugin, except its not a plugin but an app. But it will do the same thing. And I doubt you'd have more than 80MB free RAM in the commercial product either, so lets not get ahead of ourselves now shall we
. What users fail to understand is that the RAM is not being increased for the user in the new gen phones but for the new plugins etc.. 50-80MB RAM on boot is more than enough for heavy usage. More the better though, you actually might see a decrease in RAM with WM7 as all these gimmicky apps such as the panels and the Diamonds plugin wont be necessary.
The panels are not all that dependant on RAM either to run faster, either it has enough to run or it does'nt, any excess does not affect panel performance but will effect other application performance. Its the graphics and CPU that will effect panel performance. Optimization is a must.
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@WhyBe
If you really think I'm going to sell my E90 for an X1 you are even more deluded than i thought.
OK genius if the panels run so well on 128mb Ram and it has 33.3mb of Ram on boot up something doesn't add up does it? So why would SE delay it and add the extra Ram for the FUN? of it or to ruin there chance of a successful launch?
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Posted: 2008-06-20 19:54:49
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On 2008-06-20 19:54:49, Dogmann wrote:
@WhyBe
If you really think I'm going to sell my E90 for an X1 you are even more deluded than i thought.
OK genius if the panels run so well on 128mb Ram and it has 33.3mb of Ram on boot up something doesn't add up does it? So why would SE delay it and add the extra Ram for the FUN? of it or to ruin there chance of a successful launch?
Good questions. I don't know the answers--perhaps BengalBoy does.
However, I don't recall
ever delaying the X1? That obviously was a figment of somebody's imagination
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first said 2nd half of 2008, then they said 4Q of 2008, and now it appears to be mid-October for France. Where's the delay? It's on schedule.
I figured you would give in to the X1 sooner or later. Seeing as how the e90 will soon be 2nd rate. You're putting up a good fight though
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