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Or they could buy ST-Ericsson
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Posted: 2012-06-09 16:30:12
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Didn't ST-Ericsson simply rehash the ARM architecture just as Qualcomm does? in fact ST-Ericsson SoCs are using Mali GPUs - the defacto GPU used for refereince ARM SoCs, while qualcomm is using the technology they acquired from AMD a couple of years ago. and also PSVita is using the same quad core A9 lke the GSIII with same GPU as "the new iPad". and AFAIK Sony would need a fabrication company like TSMC/Samsung or perhaps GlobalFoundries to produce their own designed chips, nevertheless I agree that, if Sony, with the help of toshiba and IBM could produce a die shrunken, low power Cell broadband engine(which is a very unique and powerful architecture of its own) to run efficiently to a smartphone, I think they'll have a winning bet against HTC and Samsung that would stay superior even for the next few years.

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Posted: 2012-06-09 17:06:01
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FYI,

Samsung is now partner up with GlobalFoundries to produce their 32nm HKMG chipset for Galaxy S3, may not possible for Sony.

Samsung already made investment in their next-gen plant as well, report quoted it as 20nm process

TSMC is struggle in low-yield rate in 28nm process, with large order from Qualcomm

STMicro one hand in ST-E joint venture is 32nm capable but I don't think they will ready to compete in time.


What is other possible options

Intel could possibly take this chance? of course, not produce but selling their own design Medfield's chipset?


Myself, I really wish Sony could open they own plant to become number one Samsung's challenger in droid-sphere,
but recent years of red ink and money matter as you may all know could prevent this in next few years.
unless to work in co-production with some other company.

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Posted: 2012-06-09 19:47:50
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HOW you Know THIS?? again???
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Posted: 2012-06-09 21:42:00
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Well i think it wont be out before august. Even if it was announced on the 20th of june, then having a minimum of 1-2 month time to release is expected + delays since its typical , and when they announce something for a quarter, it really means end of that quarter or even early next quarter.
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Posted: 2012-06-09 22:03:20
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Intel has the best fabrication facilities of all Semiconductor manufacturers around the world, but imho Medfield chipset
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Posted: 2012-06-10 10:11:20
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Sony will have to invest alot of money to have its own advanced fab process. Moreover the competition between qualcomm, nvidia, texas instruments and now samsung is too high, even intel is unable to penetrate it.

Its feasible for sony to have its own cpu design for a vita or ps3 because its used for years and they sell alot, but for a phone it needs to be updated every year and you need to convince and win over other manufacturers to sell them.

They could partner with ibm like how they do now for designing and use tsmc and global foundries for production which would be more economical. But that still doesn't get them integrated radio chips.
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Posted: 2012-06-10 14:45:15
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@djin,

Actully Sony doesn't have to invest in fabs, they can outsource the production to another company and there's a lot, GlobalFoundries, TSMC, UMC, Samsung, IBM and lately Intel. even Qualcomm and TI don't have fabs, fabs are expensive to build and maintain... Qualcomm and TI design and develops the chipset and then outsource the production to other companies mainly TSMC...

Samsung have their own designs and development and also their own fabs. but they produce so many models with different market segmentation that they can't design and develop an SoC for each one, so they use some other SoC from other vendors like Qualcomm for example...

Apple design and partly develop their own SoC and partner with Samsung to finalize the development and then manufacture the SoC... because Apple have very high volume and very low segmentation they can afford it, and it's better for them. so they have a constant platform where they can develop and optimize, but incase of Sony it's not that much affordable and logical they don't have that much of a volume to afford all the costs and also they have a lot more products segmentation to fill...
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Posted: 2012-06-10 15:35:35
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You dont need your own fab process to make chips. Most big companies dont even have factories, AMD, nvidia qualcomm etc. Sony could maybe cooperate with IBM to design the chips and with ST-ericsson for the modems.

As it is now Sony really needs to do something if the want to be able to compete in the very high-end market. Samsung will always have an edge with their own socs and HTC have their close relation with qualcomm

edit. Damn Xajel, you were faster

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Posted: 2012-06-10 15:35:54
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@Motvikt,

Actually amd has its own fab which is called global foundries. Also, if sony made one more soc, it needs to have a big advantage over the competitors, and it needs to sell well to have proper developer support. Otherwise even if they did manage edge over the the competitors, if it didnt sell well its going to be a big disadvantage to consumers due to lack of developer support.

@Xajel,

True, but will it be any good if sony invests so much money now to co develop their own soc which will be regarded as high end for a year, and barely selling it? Even if they do put it in their next high end, if it sells like how their present high end devices do, then it will just be a big loss for them. I think for now they should make use of the best available resources, and up their sales. Once they become profitable and have a bigger fan base, they will be able to develop their own soc and use it efficiently as then they will have more dev support, more sales and better advantage at marketing.

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I too want sony to make their own soc, which would give much more advantage to them in the long run, but for now it just seems wishful thinking. They even sold their 49% shares of lcd plant to samsung and now outsource it because its cheaper for them..
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Posted: 2012-06-10 16:42:51
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