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Dogmann Posts: > 500

@WhyBe

Oh dear oh dear,

Slimmer sexier with a price to be paid in a less functional keyboard. It's a smart phone it isn't meant to or needs to be sexy it's performance is what counts. Not impressing people with it's looks just how shallow are you?

I told you i don't want need or like Touchscreens so whilst that may be good for you it isn't for me.
The E90 has a 800x352 but is 4" so is larger than the X1's.

Has faster CPU and you missed more Ram but because it needs it that's why. We will see when it launches just how it performs and if it faster or not than the E90.

You are wrong about the E90 only playing 24fps H.264 as all my media is converted @25fps and all plays fine and we will have to wait and see if the X1 does indeed play it or not.

Has a grown mans OS and may have an update to WM7 no one knows that for sure do they.
As opposed to the worlds best selling OS used by more people in more devices than WM by quite some margin.

More efficient battery use based on what? best time estimates from the manufacturer before the product is even finished counts for nothing I'm afraid. The E90 has 1500aMh Li-Polymer battery that is proven to give great battery life the X1's is unproven so again lets wait and see shall we.

Sorry but none of those impress me in the slightest as why i should wait another 4-5 months and upgrade to a device that is not even it's equal.

As sorry but the X1's keyboard is not as good and neither is the screen as large or as good as it's a touchscreen and that's just the price you pay for a touchscreen I'm afraid.

The Multimedia support is also better on the E90 and i much prefer S60 to WM and yes i have tried WM to reach my decision.

But if it's good for you get it but i won't.

Marc





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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-06-20 21:19 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-20 22:19:02
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Tigon Posts: 108

lol it's in spanish, the x1 will be a great device no doubt about that especially with touchflo, i did state so a while back that the orientation button will act as the touchflo activation key, more info on the validty of that claim soon.

[ This Message was edited by: Tigon on 2008-06-20 21:21 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-20 22:19:20
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WhyBe Posts: > 500

@Tigon:
Thanks for the video link.
What would a "TouchFlo" key do?

@Dogmann
You stated yourself that your e90 doesn't play 30fps h.264 VGA. Well, the X1 does. I gave you the link a few posts back on the last page. Here it is again.

Don't fight the feelin!
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Posted: 2008-06-20 22:37:05
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Dogmann Posts: > 500

@Whybe

Oh come on you can't really be serious just what do you expect any manufacturer to say about a rivals device then get real. Well i sure hope for those that get one they improve the speed from that video as boy is it slow to react. I went and made a cup of tea while it booted up as even when it opened the fist panel it was still not usable with the spinning Windows timer.

@tigon

No it hasn't changed my mind in the slightest it's far to slow and keyboard is a big disappointment it has far to much space wasted and i prefer performance over looks. If you or anyone else just wants something that's just pretty go for it. Personally will take function and performance over looks any day.

Listen no one says you have to like or want a E90 it's not a device for everyone but i will happily take it's extra size and weight for a 4" screen and 57 key keyboard with an extra 8 shortcuts. It runs Tom Tom Seven Push E-Mail and has one of it not the best browsers of any device, it plays all my Films and TV shows perfectly on it's 4" screen so far it is the best device i have owned and used.Oh and it boots in 27 seconds so sorry but the X1 just doesn't come close well not for me.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-06-20 21:40 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-20 22:37:13
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WhyBe Posts: > 500

Dogmann, I'll bet you have on a tight shirt with a big capital 'H' on the chest...with a red cape blowing in the wind
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Posted: 2008-06-20 22:46:26
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dr.W Posts: 100


On 2008-06-20 22:19:02, Dogmann wrote:
@WhyBe

Oh dear oh dear,

Slimmer sexier with a price to be paid in a less functional keyboard. It's a smart phone it isn't meant to or needs to be sexy it's performance is what counts. Not impressing people with it's looks just how shallow are you?

I told you i don't want need or like Touchscreens so whilst that may be good for you it isn't for me.
The E90 has a 800x352 but is 4" so is larger than the X1's.

Has faster CPU and you missed more Ram but because it needs it that's why. We will see when it launches just how it performs and if it faster or not than the E90.

You are wrong about the E90 only playing 24fps H.264 as all my media is converted @25fps and all plays fine and we will have to wait and see if the X1 does indeed play it or not.

Has a grown mans OS and may have an update to WM7 no one knows that for sure do they.
As opposed to the worlds best selling OS used by more people in more devices than WM by quite some margin.

More efficient battery use based on what? best time estimates from the manufacturer before the product is even finished counts for nothing I'm afraid. The E90 has 1500aMh Li-Polymer battery that is proven to give great battery life the X1's is unproven so again lets wait and see shall we.

Sorry but none of those impress me in the slightest as why i should wait another 4-5 months and upgrade to a device that is not even it's equal.

As sorry but the X1's keyboard is not as good and neither is the screen as large or as good as it's a touchscreen and that's just the price you pay for a touchscreen I'm afraid.

The Multimedia support is also better on the E90 and i much prefer S60 to WM and yes i have tried WM to reach my decision.

But if it's good for you get it but i won't.

Marc





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Honoured to have won BEST DEBATER

[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-06-20 21:19 ]


First, how do you justify telling people to withhold judgment on the X1's battery, saying that though it is the same size as the E90's it may not be as good, but you come right out and say the keyboard is not as good-have you used the keyboard? Also, do you know the screen won't be as good as the E90's? True touchscreens are usually not as bright as non-touchscreens, but do we know for a fact that this will be the case with the X1? Unless you've used a final production version you are really just guessing here. Again, with multimedia support you are making blanket statements about platforms without ever having used the X1, you really don't know how it will perform in a multimedia capacity.

Here are two important areas in which the X1 is superior to the E90:

1 Its smaller and thinner, so easier to use.

2. It's 3G services will work in the US, where I live.

I'm not saying the E90 is not a great phone, if Nokia made a slimmer and shorter version of it with US 3G I would be tempted to buy it. I like touchscreens, they make navigating faster and easier, but that's personal preference.

On a side note, I just don't understand why you get so angry, or at least adopt an angry tone, about something as ultimately trivial as cell phones. You take people to task for making statements they can't substantiate but you are just as guilty yourself. What's the deal?
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Posted: 2008-06-20 23:09:59
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Humble Posts: 120

lol you lot give me joke, I do like both devices, tbh, i must also admit that I had in my possesion s e90 for aboutan hour (my friends), all i can rember that this was a power house device, i was watching David Attenborough it was very clear
and FAST!!! every time i clicked a button it responded very quickly yes it was a little big but liked it alot,
btw when you write a reply on the forum does your cursor jump to another line randomly
mine does lol
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Posted: 2008-06-20 23:12:50
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Dogmann Posts: > 500

@Whybe

Now you are starting to quote me as saying what you say listen you believe what you want and we will see when it arrives how it performs. I don't hate it it just don't love the X1 or want one if you do fine get one.

@Dr W

I didn't claim anything of the sort about the battery and i keep saying lets wait and see how it performs. It is Whybe that suddenly thinks WM with all the panels running is going to use less battery not me. But i can count how many keys the X1 has and see how spaced they are as well as the comments from people saying it lacks tactile feed back and travel and that the top row are to close to the screen to be comfortable. Now compare that with my 57 keys nicely spaced and with great tactile feedback and that's how and why i say the X1's is inferior.


Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-06-20 22:29 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-20 23:28:37
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WhyBe Posts: > 500

@Dogmann
Is there any chance that after holding an X1 in your hand and using it for awhile, that you would consider getting one?
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Posted: 2008-06-21 06:02:39
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VinnyP! Posts: 119


Please tell me one thing that the X1 offers that is better than my year old E90 has got? go on then just one and not the touchscreen as i don't won't one or need one.


A real monty Python moment. Tell me what the X1 has got that the E90 hasn't except not any of the things that the X1 has the E90 hasn't. Touch screens are good things for most users including me. WM has a wider set of better applications. The X1 has better battery life in a smaller package
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Posted: 2008-06-21 13:14:59
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