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uaproof for h82xx and h83xx returned but didnt for h81xx...

it's not a good sign but still dont forget this device got fcced last week again , it doesnt make any sense to me if they wont show it or will save it for ifa. last 36 hours before show
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Posted: 2018-02-24 19:04:30
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I suppose that is true. Except for the fact that all devices that will use an SD845 processor will have a considerably larger footprint than the XZ2 compact. The GS9, if we go by the S8, will start with a 5.8 inch screen. Which means its gonna be nearly an inch larger on the diagonal, compared to the 5.0 inch XZ2 compact. That much extra internal volume must have some impact on the device's thermal envelope. The XZ2 compact cannot be the same thickness as an S9, or indeed its bigger brother - the full-sized XZ2. How much thicker it actually needs to be? I dunno; I'm no electronic or thermal design engineer. However, I assume that Sony do employ these engineers to work on these phones. Such a design choice would not be made without reason. They wouldn't make the phone unnecessarily thick, without reason.

Additionally, the SoC being made on smaller and smaller dies doesn't account for other sources of heat within an electronic device. You also have the battery (lest we forget the exploding galaxies not 2 years ago) and the RAM - of which there is now more. There's also the fact that the compact lines of phones have had WAY bigger batteries than any other phone in their size class goes a long way to explain thicknesses. The XZ1 compact had what....a 2700mAh battery? That's enormous given its 4.7inch chassis. This new compact is rumoured to have a 2800mAh battery? All that takes up space. Unless you'd rather have a smaller battery too?

Finally, phone thicknesses is a point that has long since lost meaning. We're talking about devices that are for the most part thinner than 1cm. Shaving fractions of millimeters off device thickness at this point is nothing more than pointless dickwaving. There are diminishing returns. If a phone is 7-8mm thick, reducing it down to 6-7mm isn't really going to make any difference in terms of usability or indeed pocketability. Particularly when the phones seem to be getting taller and wider as the years go by.

I suppose however, your mileage may vary on this point. I for one, do not care if the XZ2 is going to be a slightly chubby phone. Ultimately it will have a negligible impact on its usability. Its still a small device relative to its competitors, and its ergonomics; given how curvaceous is, is undoubtedly better.

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Posted: 2018-02-24 19:04:35
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It indeed is.



Yeah, keep telling this to yourself, if that helps you sleep better. The S8/9 design is miles ahead of this ''new''
Sony design.
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Posted: 2018-02-24 19:38:43
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I also like this design better than s8 or 9. Note 4 was the last samsung phone I like in term of design. Smaller screen to body ratio doesn't make design any better to me. Huge bezels are hideous this day and age, but I can live with xz2 size.
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Posted: 2018-02-24 19:53:21
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February 26th ... and the Android community is taking notice.

The key will be ... was it a bad decision to debut after Samsung or a great decision?
- as in will their hardware & features lesson the mindshare impact of Samsungs SGS lineup, or can it overtake/outdue SGS lineup impact?

Just for the fun and reminisce

Jonny X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juv4kGjo2JM
(I know it's a Windows smartphone of 2007/2008, but it's the effect). Marketing will be KEY for Sony in 2018!


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Posted: 2018-02-24 20:02:18
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Marketing is always key for any body, samsung didn't get this far for doing nothing.
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Posted: 2018-02-24 20:06:45
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Why are there two different speaker grills?
Why are the top/bottom bezels different in size?
Why are the side bezels still big despite removing the fps from the side?

The design feels really dated compared to the rest, it's not even different now.

It's like they let a monkey play Mix-max over at Sony and it came up with these two phones.

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Posted: 2018-02-24 20:15:28
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I agree with @blackzeros. I have said a few times.
No OEM certifies a devices 8 months before the event.
It also still has FCC ID.

They promised something new, the MIRAI.
It was never said they would apply to all phones.
And it is pretty clear that XZ2 is not the MIRAI.
Just back to chapter 1 ( 2010-2012).

XZ2 and XZ2c are nothing WOW. Just regular design that reminds HMD Nokia 8. Bit of U11 too.
We dont know everything they have inside but probably not much different from new cpu/gpu, bigger battery and external facelift.

The decision to announce midranges at CES must mean something.
All this silence, suspicious tease and FB posts..

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Posted: 2018-02-24 20:22:42
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Rumor says there is suppose to be some vibrating sound tech or something, kind of vague but speakers size could have something to do with that. I can see phone thickness will be the main complain for a lot of ppl, probably will be reduced in xz3. Ergonomically I can see this much nicer to hold than most phones out there.
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Posted: 2018-02-24 20:23:41
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Very true but they had top quality products that culminated into a final product (processor, RAM, Storage, OLED/AMOLED, External Storage - MicroSD) that really helped. Customers see through the marketing after purchases & reviews are made.

Sony can source top quality products and I'm not sure about their OLED displays if they're top quality for mobile, or what happend to that processor unit they purchased from Ericsson some 8yrs ago ... but it appears/seems like a quality final product - yet again like they started with the Z5 Premium. The problem was distribution, marketing and global support.
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Posted: 2018-02-24 20:53:57
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