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If you want to see sending a text or email in action, its shown in the iPhone introduction video:
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
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Posted: 2007-01-11 10:44:16
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To all those considering going to the US in the summer and picking one up like i was going to do..read this (http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=3036&source=SIDEBAR) :
"This hints at just how much Apple was, and remains today, in the driver's seat when it came to a potential iPhone deal. While Cingular does have a multi-year exclusive deal with Apple to sell the device, Apple has been responsible for defining the phone's specifications, setting the price, and building the user interface. Apple is also responsible for the decision to not allow any 3rd party applications to be installed on the iPhone, as well as the decision to not include 3G data support in the initial iPhone. The fact that there will only be only on-screen AT&T or AT&T/Cingular branding, and no such markings on the exterior of the iPhone, also shows that this really is Apple's baby, and that Cingular is just happy to have been invited to tag along for the ride.
The iPhone will be available at Apple and Cingular retail stores, online, and, at Apple's discretion, possibly even eventually offered at large retailers such as Walmart. The only way to obtain one will be to enter a new 2 year service agreement with Cingular, or to extend an existing agreement for 2 years. The device will be locked, and Cingular's Lurie joked that Apple's engineers would be looking at ways to prevent unlocking once the device is released, something that would not be all that surprising."
How much does that blow for the rest of the world?? A whole lot cause knowing Apple they will do a good job of locking the phone and not allowing arbitrage opportunities.
It does make you think though that the European/world version will be totally different formt he american one and exactly why it's being released later. As people have mentionned already network providers in Europe won't bend over for Apple and this could either mean a stripped down version or a version that's even better in order to allow for different channels of media downloads.
What do you guys think?
At this point the N95 is looking extremely good in my opinion...
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Posted: 2007-01-11 14:50:15
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I agree, Nokia N95 is still a king, ofcourse just untill Sony Ericsson releases their own 5 MP phone. And if you alredy haven't seen this, it looks like Apple stole LG's idea.See for yourself, and decide is it true. I really don't like iPhone, long live Sony Ericsson!
iPhone (it's still called iPhone, we'll see if it will remain so) and LG KE850
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Posted: 2007-01-11 14:56:18
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@butterguy
You means its a 2 year contract agreement AND the price of the handset?
I can only seen one European operator picking this up - one with a pan-european network like t-mobile. Implementing the Visual Voicemail feature would need changes to the network or else the phone would be stripped down of some features.
Imagine having to keep the handset for 2 years with a screen that isn't scratch-proof. But then I suppose screen protectors will fix that.
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Posted: 2007-01-11 15:15:37
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goldenface...
the reason there is a 2 yr agreement is because the US market is geared that way. It's amazing that in a society that is completely customer centric, the mobile industry still manages to have most of the leverage over the consumer. there is very little or no subsidy ofr handsets in the US but than again people there do tend to benefit from a whole lot of free minutes to compensate and other things. It's totally different set up.
If Apple was to get into an agreement with a European provider...then the subsidy would have to exist in some way or other constraints would have to be abolished. Apple knows that their bargaining power will be different as the european market is completely different.
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Posted: 2007-01-11 15:21:09
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From
MacWorld:
Apple has begun talks with European mobile network operators, a report in The Times suggests.
The Times yesterday reported that Apple has been in discussion with Spanish telecoms firm Telefonica SA to license the telco with exclusive rights to distribute the new iPhone in Europe.
Telefonica SA owns UK mobile network O2. Vodafone, Orange and T-Mobile are all described as competing for the chance to distribute Apple's new 'must-have' handset.
The report also claimed that Hutchison's 3G operation, 3 will be excluded from bidding for the rights, as the iPhone doesn't offer 3G support at this time.
Telefonica SA has since declined to comment on the report.
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Posted: 2007-01-12 00:58:16
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Further info on the iPhone:
From
Engadget:
The iPhone -- just like the iPod -- is powered by a Samsung processor according to an Apple spokeswoman speaking to Reuters. FBR Research believes that the remaining major components are supplied by Marvell (802.11), Infineon Technologies (baseband), Broadcom Corp. (touch screen controller), and Cambridge Silicon Radio (Bluetooth).
From
MacWorld:
A report on CrunchGear answers the query regarding syncing over WiFi. That website has spoken to Apple's US network partner, Cingular. According to the telco, the phone doesn't sync using WiFi, "but they're not ruling it out". At present the phone — which doesn't ship in the US until June — can only be synced using an iPod dock.
That report also offers an easy explanation of Apple CEO Steve Jobs' claims that the iPhone runs OS X (not Mac OS X, perhaps best understood as iPhone OS X).
"OS X’s underlying OS, Darwin, is based on BSD. The BSD kernel is small enough to fit on MP3 players and potentially electronic toothbrushes. So generally the iPhone will run OS X, albeit with a completely different UI layer. Therefore, instead of a lumpy OS like MS Mobile 5.0, it will have a real version of OS X."
The report also offers some answers to additional questions, such as whether the phone will appear with other US networks, and what services will be unavailable to those who unlock the device to use on other networks.
Apple's decision not to support VoIP on the iPhone may be related to its discussions with Cisco regarding use of the trademark. Cisco offers its own range of VoIP handsets, while nowhere near as advanced as Apple's solution, Cisco markets its devices as 'iPhones'.
Cisco this morning launched legal action against Apple to prevent it using the iPhone name for the new Apple 'PhonePod'. With the litigation pending and Apple arguing that they are two different products, it's unlikely VoIP wil feature in the PhonePod until the dispute is resolved in some way.
iPod games aren't yet supported on the device. However, Electronic Arts this week said that its development of games for the iPod (with video) has been "very successful", implying the company will produce more titles for the range.
It's conceivable (though it is pure conjecture) that new game titles will in future be made available that are designed to exploit the screen real estate, resolution and ARM processor of the new Apple phone. The fact that games haven't yet been associated with the device may just mean that no games have yet been built for it.
Apple has said that it took out over 200 patents to deliver its iPhone. With this in mind, the environment for third-party developers is likely to be more limited than it is for Mac OS X development. However, it's not yet clear if Apple will open up its iPhone for third party developers.
The device is packed with high-end features: as such it's likely to appeal to a similar segment of the market that is attracted to the Blackberry.
These users are typically business-types. And that's a segment of people who are likely to want their multi-function communications device to be able to open Word documents and PDF files.
The iPhone introduced Tuesday doesn't open Word documents, but is capable of looking at PDF documents, according to the New York Times.
The latter report, by veteran technology writer David Pogue, raises some additional questions:
"Note, too, that the software is still unfinished, and many questions are still unanswered. Will you be able to turn your own songs into ring tones? Will there be a voice recorder? Will the camera record video? Can you use Skype to make free internet calls? Will the battery really last for five hours of talking, video and web browsing (or 16 hours of audio playback)? Will you someday be able to buy songs and videos from the iTunes Store right on the phone?"
The device is already gaining critical acclaim — not least for its massive usability improvements. The fact that users can actually access the features of the device is an innovation in itself — many mobile phone users barely scratch the surface of what their devices can do. Apple makes it easy to access and employ features, which means those features will be used.
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Posted: 2007-01-12 01:07:27
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Posted this on the other forum:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01...sualvoicemail/
They stole the Visual Voice Mail idea.
Also if the phone can't open and edit documents on the move then it is DEFINETLY in no way a smart phone, especially these day's.
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Posted: 2007-01-12 01:31:30
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Residentevil Posts: > 500
That phone is looking better everyday and could a P990 killer.
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Posted: 2007-01-12 05:28:35
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Its better than all SE phones put together.
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Posted: 2007-01-12 08:40:14
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