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Other shots from comparison:
http://share.ovi.com/album/Mo[....]ounge.NokiaN8vsCanonI?count=50
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Posted: 2010-10-02 21:31:55
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By the way, Ixus 130 has 1/2.3″ sensor, while N8 has 1/1.83″. That comparison was made on 15th of september according to exif data. So, that's not final firmware for sure.
[ This Message was edited by: ok1907 on 2010-10-02 20:48 ]
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Posted: 2010-10-02 21:42:53
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On 2010-10-02 16:03:35, Vit wrote:
What are you refering to? Blurry areas? Please, be more specific.
There will always be "blurry areas" in pictures. Unless youīre @ the Hyperfocal distante, the DOF will be limited.
For the same fixed aperture, a bigger sensor has a shallower DOF than a smaller one.
Sometimes this shallow DOF effect is desirable.
This:
Right at ferris wheel...
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Posted: 2010-10-02 22:34:28
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On 2010-10-02 22:34:28, Luhccas-U1a wrote:
On 2010-10-02 16:03:35, Vit wrote:
What are you refering to? Blurry areas? Please, be more specific.
There will always be "blurry areas" in pictures. Unless youīre @ the Hyperfocal distante, the DOF will be limited.
For the same fixed aperture, a bigger sensor has a shallower DOF than a smaller one.
Sometimes this shallow DOF effect is desirable.
This:
Right at ferris wheel...
I agree with you on that area.
But thatīs a small portion of the scene. To my eyes there is plenty of detail on that picture, if you take that small portion aside.
Nevertheless, we all know that no optics is perfect. Satioīs, IMO, is one of the worst cameraphones when it comes to corner softness and general optics quality. It also lacks contrast, just like the old k800.
I donīt have a picture to compare fairly enough to the one youīve pointed at, but I do have one that compares to the second picture Iīve posted. This has come from my very own Satio:
Well, as anybody can see, apart from the center, everything else is very, very blurred.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-10-03 03:59 ]
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Posted: 2010-10-03 01:27:12
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But thatīs a small portion of the scene
Exactly... And that is worrying.
This isn't the only with that "dead" zone.
It's looks like a faulty sensor,not DOF,Hyperfocal distance,focal aperture limitations.
Your example just show a tilt shot like picture,isn't the same thing.
I can see a lot of details on N8's sample too. But the blurred point draws attention because it's noticeable weird.
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Posted: 2010-10-03 05:32:54
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Water-drop on the lens?
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Posted: 2010-10-03 10:29:43
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On 2010-10-03 05:32:54, Luhccas-U1a wrote:
But thatīs a small portion of the scene
Exactly... And that is worrying.
This isn't the only with that "dead" zone.
It's looks like a faulty sensor,not DOF,Hyperfocal distance,focal aperture limitations.
Your example just show a tilt shot like picture,isn't the same thing.
I can see a lot of details on N8's sample too. But the blurred point draws attention because it's noticeable weird.
I agree with you that this particular area seems odd. But had it been a faulty sensor, one should expect to witness the same results throughout the collection of samples produced by the same camera. That doesnīt seem to be the case, though. Iīve seen some pics with the same area blurred, but also some without any blur at all. I donīt know. I thought it was a limitation of its optics. Perhaps distortion in one (or more) of the five optics elements on that area. As the focus changes, that effect become more or less aparent.
About the shot Iīve provided, my point was to compare it to that second N8 shot Iīve posted, in the absence of a fair comparison shot to the first one. I agree it doesnīt depict the same issue, but my point was merely to spot Satioīs main drawback. Donīt get me wrong here. For instance, I think that Satioīs sensor is very good in low light up to ISO 500, perhaps the best in this regard, but during the day, under strong light, its optics, at least to my taste, makes a great amount of pictures become a big letdown. Even though the camera was tilted on that shot, the nearest object in the frame was more than 10 meters away from me. I would expect it to be sharp enough. Take these shots I took with a Pixon12 as an example of more or less the same situation:
Anyway, I guess itīs still too soon to blame or to praise anything regarding N8īs camera, and even regarding the N8 itself.
I repeat that I agree with you about that shot, but from what Iīve seen from other pictures and sources, it seems to be a singular case, and I guess youīll agree with that.
Have you seen the comparison with the Canon IXUS 130? What are your thoughts about it?
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-10-03 11:09 ]
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Posted: 2010-10-03 11:01:02
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On 2010-10-03 10:29:43, AbuBasim wrote:
Water-drop on the lens?
Yeah, or perhaps dust, finger prints... You know, itīs not gotten a camera lens cover (I know Iīll miss it).
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Posted: 2010-10-03 11:05:21
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i see Amazon.com USA now has the N8 up, with shipping in 1-2 months.. but sadly its the same price as Nokia.com.. $549
shopblt much cheaper..
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Posted: 2010-10-03 21:23:05
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Gsmarena have decided that they had to take control of the wrong criticisms about N8 >>>
Here
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Posted: 2010-10-04 00:56:47
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