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nodarsixar Posts: > 500

f........ gsmarena and phonearena

gsmarena and phonearena=Samsungarena
[ This Message was edited by: nodarsixar on 2015-10-20 08:49 ]

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Posted: 2015-10-20 09:47:44
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doministry Posts: > 500

I would recommend looking at The Verge review.

And here:
http://forum.xda-developers.c[....]ctures-quality-t3217766/page29

There is a more serious and informed guy taking really good shots.
I have no idea what is going on with some of the websites.
It's really confusing. I see a great promise of Z5.

I will REPEAT myself:
I've seen identical thing with Z2. Mixed reviews, some bad photos,
big internet discussion. Many camera updates.

I have Z2 and I know it's camera can kick ass.
In almost any scenario.
Just some skills and knowledge.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2015-10-20 09:04 ]

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Posted: 2015-10-20 10:03:44
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miromiromi Posts: 481

hahahaha
the devices on the eprice blind test have been unveiled...

i'm glad to be proven wrong.

picture E is actually the z5. GOOD GOOD GOOD!!

curiously, the worst performing in the bunch is the panasonic dedicated digital camera.

http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/102/4956763/1/

even eprice appears to have different qualities for the z5s they are testing.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2015-10-20 10:03 ]

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Posted: 2015-10-20 11:02:47
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McKinley Posts: > 500

The G4 smashes the competition in that test.
Too bad the G4 is one ugly phone in leather and plastic material.

The Z5 is just meh, no real improvement over the Xperia Z3 which I am using right now.
For me it just feels that Sony just don't want to get the camera department right. They deliberately make things worse to not interfere with its compact camera business. I know it was that during the Sony Ericsson era.
[ This Message was edited by: McKinley on 2015-10-20 14:20 ]

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Posted: 2015-10-20 15:06:30
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doministry Posts: > 500


On 2015-10-20 15:06:30, McKinley wrote:
The G4 smashes the competition in that test.
Too bad the G4 is one ugly phone in leather and plastic material.

The Z5 is just meh, no real improvement over the Xperia Z3 which I am using right now.
For me it just feels that Sony just don't want to get the camera department right. They deliberately make things worse to not interfere with its compact camera business. I know it was that during the Sony Ericsson era.
[ This Message was edited by: McKinley on 2015-10-20 14:20 ]


Really??
Ok so here we go, Night/Low light samples from GSMArena Z5 versus G4

G4
by doministry, on Flickr


Z5
by doministry, on Flickr

That would be it about "smashing" the competition, like Z5.

Again now daylight.


G4_2
by doministry, on Flickr


Z5_2
by doministry, on Flickr

This is not TOTALLY fair because G4 had better daylight and more light in the dusk shot.

But still, IS IT SMASHING Z5?
For my eyes - he.l no!!!

Yes Z5 may be a bit more "fuzzy" on edges.
BUT THE DETAIL IS SIMILAR on both phones in both scenes!!!
You may prefer any of them - that's Fine! - but there is definitaley no big difference!
I think they're close.
And G4 also is softening images on edges.

Look also here and see, again, all the 3 phones are quite close here in performance.

http://www.gsmarena.com/piccm[....]34&idPhone2=6901&idPhone3=7079

And the video:
http://www.gsmarena.com/vidcm[....]34&idPhone2=6901&idPhone3=7467
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2015-10-20 15:42 ]

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Posted: 2015-10-20 16:38:48
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miromiromi Posts: 481

@doministry
i think he's referring to my post on the eprice blind comparison.

here's the link:
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/102/4956763/1/

i'm really happy with this blind comparison. the voters may not have voted for the z5 but the quality of the z5 shots here is impressive or at least great enough. it's not like those shots taken by gsmarena.

i can't wait for photographyblog's review of the z5.
that's the only blog that actually examines the full potential of the cameras. it shows camera performance across different ISO levels.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2015-10-20 15:48 ]

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Posted: 2015-10-20 16:44:19
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Luca-S Posts: 278


On 2015-10-20 15:06:30, McKinley wrote:
The G4 smashes the competition in that test.
Too bad the G4 is one ugly phone in leather and plastic material.

The Z5 is just meh, no real improvement over the Xperia Z3 which I am using right now.
For me it just feels that Sony just don't want to get the camera department right. They deliberately make things worse to not interfere with its compact camera business. I know it was that during the Sony Ericsson era.
[ This Message was edited by: McKinley on 2015-10-20 14:20 ]



I think Z5's pics are just "okay" but definitively not a catastrophe.
It's better than Z2 and Z3/Z3+ but it should be by a large margin.
And about G4, well... It's the best for now but without the LED.
G4's led performance is the worst by far. (i had one)
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Posted: 2015-10-20 16:47:01
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doministry Posts: > 500

I know, I just posted this to give some more examples.
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Posted: 2015-10-20 16:47:06
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entra6 Posts: 7

after galaxy s2 i owned Z and Z1 then Z3 and i waited for Z5 But all reviewers complain about
1- camera edge not clear and the picture its self lost of details compare to S6 or G4
2- battery life is behind S6
3- performance not far away from Z+3
now i buy Galaxy S6 edge+ and i'm using it for one week and i can see its perfect phone and i hoped Z5 smashing S6 but they still behind them
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Posted: 2015-10-20 17:39:29
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amirprog Posts: > 500

There seem to be a hardware issue in some z5 and z5c camera reported in sony official z5 forum that make mostly the left side blurry in landscape and the top blurry in portrait: http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5[....]-on-the-left-side/td-p/1043401
That might be the reason for why the verge in the review praise z5 and z5c camera and well as other hands on photo results like gsmaarena ifa z5 shoot and other reviewers say the camera is ok but not great.
I hope the premium version doesn't suffer the same issue!
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Posted: 2015-10-20 18:16:24
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