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On 2007-05-26 16:51:24, QVGA wrote:
On 2007-05-26 16:50:28, mweb6161 wrote:
BTW what's "worthless" to YOU QVGA constitutes a "bargain buy" to me
haha it is for me too, but i wonder why the prices fall so quickly
simple, because SE pitches launch prices too high.
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Posted: 2007-05-26 16:57:22
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On 2007-05-26 16:56:50, plankgatan wrote:
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QVGA said; did you just learn the word "robust" today? because you're using it awfully too much.
dont have a lot special functions? is that suppose to be a high point for K800? are you kidding me or what?
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japp, i learned that word today, how could you know that ?
and no, im not kidding with non of you, i mean for example N95 is the really joke. have a lot of special-functions (who dosent work properley), and feels lika a plastic toy, but a toy for 7000kr (~700 euro).
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-05-26 15:58 ]
Does your K810 have both 3G and EDGE? What about WiFi? Or a 2.6'' screen? VGA video? 3.5mm connector?
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Posted: 2007-05-26 16:59:51
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but please, do you really think i want both 3G and EDGE. one of them is enough. (gsm/3G is it of course). i have test N95 several times. it was a lot f cool thinhs, but i didnt use nearlly half of them. besides, so didnt all functions (like gps, and some other things) work properley.
to much money for so little quality.
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-05-26 16:07 ]
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Posted: 2007-05-26 17:05:43
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On 2007-05-26 17:05:43, plankgatan wrote:
but please, do you really think i want both 3G and EDGE. one of them is enough. (gsm/3G of course). i have test N95 several times. it was a lot f cool thinhs, but i didnt use nearlly half of them. besides, so didnt all functions (like gps, and some other things) work properley.
to much money for so little quality.
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-05-26 16:05 ]
good, enjoy your QCIF res video recording camera oriented 2.0'' screened phone.
[ This Message was edited by: QVGA on 2007-05-26 16:07 ]
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Posted: 2007-05-26 17:06:40
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@plankgatan at least it has gps... dont forget, its the first mobile fone with that feature, it still has to developed. for standard features isnt really not that bad. do like it when i am in a different country and travle all around, can check a lot of things, even i dont have gps rec.
ps i have installed smart2go on e60, do like it.
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Posted: 2007-05-26 17:10:59
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On 2007-05-26 17:10:59, BobaFett wrote:
@plankgatan at least it has gps... dont forget, its the first mobile fone with that feature
I believe Moto have had GPS integrated in some of their smartphones like A1000 for several years, so I don't think N95 is the first one to have it.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2007-05-26 16:34 ]
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Posted: 2007-05-26 17:34:16
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On 2007-05-26 17:34:16, Arne Anka wrote:
On 2007-05-26 17:10:59, BobaFett wrote:
@plankgatan at least it has gps... dont forget, its the first mobile fone with that feature
I believe Moto have had GPS integrated in some of their smartphones like A1000 for several years, so I don't think N95 is the first one to have it.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2007-05-26 16:34 ]
I think you are almost correct.
http://www.motorola.com/motoi[....]/details.jsp?globalObjectId=40
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Posted: 2007-05-27 16:39:53
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I've gotta agree with goldenface. SE may not have the same high end line up as Nokia (though they atleast continue to suport Touchscreen, a market segment Nokia deign to support), but this does not mean they aren't producing some great phones.
True they don't have the ALL-IN-ONE N95 latest of everything (except TS) type phones that Nokia have, and they are don't support some technologies yet such as inbuilt gps or hsdpa.
Once they have pumped the mid range market as they are doing, they will re-focus on the high end. I'm not worried about this, I'm quite happy to wait until SE get their purchase in the mid range market, as this is something that was long overdue.
To my way of thinking very few people really mind if SE phones don't have HSDPA. Those that really do, have the option of buying another brand that does have it. There is no need to be sour at SE, it's just a practicallity. Likewise if you wanted the BEST camera phone (what ever your reason) you would get the K800. I don't "blame" Nokia because they don't have the best camera phone, nor do I blame Nokia because they don't have touchscreen. I simply look elsewhere if looking for a touchscreen phone, I don't waste anytime thinking Nokia are letting me down or don't have "good phones" just because they don't support touchscreens or aren't as serious about camera phones as SE.
That's why I don't get this thread. The discussion is great, but the topic is dead wrong. SE have some GREAT phones, but it's just that for some they may not be perfect. I usually find SE phones are more suitable for my preferences than Nokia, that doesn't mean Nokia don't have some great phones either. The Nokia N95 is a great little phone, but I would buy the P1 becuase of the touchscreen (and other factors). It always seems that Nokia supporters argue that HSDPA and GPS are high-end requirements, yet they see the touch screen as a non-issue. Herein they reveal the flaw in the argument that Nokia more accurately fulfill high end requirements than SE - because they are judging "high end" only on what their own preference is in a high end phone. I (and many other phone users) consider a touchscreen as an explicit requirement of a high end phone, so from my perspective, Nokia have NO high end phones at all.
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Posted: 2007-05-28 03:49:29
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It always seems that Nokia supporters argue that HSDPA and GPS are high-end requirements, yet they see the touch screen as a non-issue.
THe problem is we dont see exploding demand for TS (in other words, TS dont inspire sales). But a GPS/5MP/VGA@30fps video rec/HSDPA do. Nobody would doubt N95 is high end and we know demand for N95 went thru the roof because of these factors. I wouldnt be surprise if N95 outsell P1 by 10 to 1.
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Posted: 2007-05-28 04:39:59
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actually back to the basic...how to define a great phone?
1. good price?
2. good reliability?
3. have all in one?
4. no major software and design bug?
5. major hit or hit product in every market?
what or how to define it as the word great is so general.
To me...great didn't mean it have to be all in one.....
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Posted: 2007-05-28 05:10:02
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