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I think this is just some units with default sensor. (like n82)
This is totally acceptable.
I'm not crucifying the N8 camera when i show these problems.
It's just something that caught my attention because the N8 was appointed as photographic revolution and that is not what we see. Even with big sensor,Carl Zeiss lens,wide angle etc...
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Posted: 2010-10-04 02:31:39
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Yeah, I guess it might not be a revolution altogether. You may be right.
Even though, I guess itīs better to wait for some serious reviews that are still to come, GSM Arenaīs and Phone Arenaīs, for instance.
Iīve seen some pretty good shots at higher ISO speeds, specially those near ISO 800. The shot bellow, for instance, has been shot @ ISO 708:
Pre-orders in Brazil start tomorrow. List price is 1499 reais (http://nokia.submarino.com.br/detail/index.site?pid=22025139&cid=80291&pcid=80291). I will buy it, anyway.
Reasonable price, reasonable package.
Even if the camera doesnīt work wonders, I guess it will be a good addition and a pretty useful companion to my daily usage.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-10-04 02:10 ]
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Posted: 2010-10-04 03:06:43
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@vit
I guess my question is that if the sensor is so large on the N8, why does it have to select an ISO level as high as 708 for this shot?
I would think that ISO 400 would be more than bright enough this scene.
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Posted: 2010-10-04 03:49:36
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On 2010-10-04 03:49:36, jake20 wrote:
@vit
I guess my question is that if the sensor is so large on the N8, why does it have to select an ISO level as high as 708 for this shot?
I would think that ISO 400 would be more than bright enough this scene.
Well, this question may be difficult to answer. Personally I think that the person got the exposure almost perfectly.
So itīs definitely not the case of excessive ISO resulting in overexposured pictures. In this case the ISO has been balanced by its Shutter Speed to make a good exposure.
If you look at the EXIF data, its shutter speed is rated @ 1/33s. Itīs already a tricky speed for someone with a shaky hand. If the ISO was lower, it would be necessary to have an even slower SS. That could lead to a problem for most users.
So we are left with three variables to consider:
=> The ambient light could be more dim than we think;
=> Its flash unit may not be that strong. If itīs a weak one, itīs possible that they had to perform an ISO boost to compensate for that.
=> A more sensitive sensor could have allowed them to dim the flash light to save battery life.
Either the second or the third option might be the best answer. If you look at the picture above, itīs been taken with ISO 337. And thatīs a close shot:
Getting back to that ISO 708 picture, we can also see that not only the girl is well exposed.
The area far from the flash influence region is also well exposed. Take a closer look at those tables and stools behind her. Looking this way, weīll conclude that the first option also need to be taken into account.
Itīs also unknow whether this has been taken in Auto mode or not.
So, itīs a pretty difficult question to answer. If I only had one now...
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-10-04 03:45 ]
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Posted: 2010-10-04 04:17:08
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The photo gallery here at Esato has a few N8 photos uploaded. Two of them:
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=30494
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=30495
Open the full size photos and notice these also have the same fuzziness in the lower right corner?
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Posted: 2010-10-04 10:33:04
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@Vit,that price is a revolution
And the f**ked X6 have the same price
Who understand the brazilian price?
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Posted: 2010-10-04 11:49:29
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Yes i am will buy it mail me
phoneandelectronicstore@hotmail.com
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Posted: 2010-10-04 12:10:38
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On 2010-10-04 11:49:29, Luhccas-U1a wrote:
@Vit,that price is a revolution
And the f**ked X6 have the same price
Who understand the brazilian price?
Yep, people were saying about that price and I never fully believed it. Until I saw the official page...
This time around theyīre making it here, too. Up there in Manaus. That helps a lot keeping the price low. And they had to now, with an imported pre-paid iPhone costing R$ 1799...
Some guys were also complaining about the ARM11 processor and the Symbian OS, but at this price tag I would never think twice! Theyīre saying that these specs are from 2009 devices. Ok, they may be right (apart from the camera), but thatīs also a 2009 price! And now Nokia have brought back a good GPU to the game, so the performance should suffice. Hardware wise itīs more or less the same as the Satio and the Vivaz.
I guess that both the N8 and the iPhone4 prices will ultimately bring all prices down in our market. The X6 has already dropped from 1499 to 999. The N97 mini is tagged @ 1299. And so on...
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Posted: 2010-10-04 13:08:43
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Yeah, but I guess that in these cases itīs some other reason.
These pics now have their right edges completely blurred, and some of the left edge, too. Itīs closer to be edge softness, IMO. The first picture (it seems to be @ Pisa) also seems to show a small degree of pincushion distortion.
The picture that Luhccas has spotted has a kinf of blurred blob @ the upper right corner.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-10-04 12:37 ]
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Posted: 2010-10-04 13:22:48
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One of these are from the Nokia N8. The other is from a Canon 550D, latest entry-to-mid level DSLR from Canon.
Can you tell who is who? (perhaps you can, but itīs surely a close finish!)
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Posted: 2010-10-04 14:12:24
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