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arcmhyke Posts: 334


On 2011-09-14 16:44:15, mr_lou wrote:
Bought the Ray today, and I'm deeply disappointed to learn that it has the same low crap audio in video-recordings as Neo does!!!!!
Arc is MUCH better, but too big for me.

I can't believe it's impossible to get what I want. Small size, good video-recording with good audio.
So yet again I'm staying with my Aino, which doesn't have the high resolution, but has good audio in the video-recordings.




you're not just leaving with a high resolution, you are leaving with all the PRO's of Xperia Ray can offer you, in Exchange of a High Audio in Video Recordings from your Aino.

I'll just bring them both if i were you, or just stay away from SE and buy something from a different manufacturer

No Offense but your post is the Strangest Post I ever Read in my entire life
[ This Message was edited by: mhyke on 2011-09-14 16:04 ]

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Posted: 2011-09-14 16:57:29
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mr_lou Posts: 403

I'm done with SE.

It makes no sense why they start making phones that gives so low quality audio, when they have done devices that gives great audio.

It's like their new trend. Reduce quality for each handset. First make great cameras in W800 and K800, then make a bunch of devices with crap camera.

Just so happens that video-recording is an important factor to me, and ever since Neo disappointed me I've been waiting for the Ray. It just amazes me that it has the same low crap quality, when both Arc and Neo and Ray is supposed to be the same model more or less. Why does only Arc have great audio?

What the hell good does a high resolution do you, if the audio is insanely low? Imagine you assembling a DVD with the recordings you and your girlfriend have made. Volume will constantly go up and down. Up everytime an Arc video is playing, and down everytime a Ray video is playing. Simply unacceptable and I used to think that was below SE quality, but apparently it's the style they intend to stay with. So sad.
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Posted: 2011-09-14 17:13:19
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Bonovox Posts: > 500


On 2011-09-14 14:39:13, s1ddo wrote:
Yes, I saw this last week but was told it is not on PAYG then and it was a printing error which seems a recurring theme with Carphone Warehouse as there were errors with the Mini and Min pro prices last month and seems to be carrying on this month too as the website says you can get them for £149/199 on PAYG but the September price list booklet says they are £199/249. The website doesn't have the ray on PAYG so I assume that what I was told was correct but will check tomorrow when I go into Leicester as if not on PAYG why are they advertising it as being available? which would be a shame as the advertised price is £50 cheaper than O2's price.


It will be soon though on Pay & go it's just first stocks normally are reserved for contracts. All other Xperia phones were on pay & go from the off. And yes,Carphone Warehouse are always making errors
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Posted: 2011-09-14 18:05:52
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RandomCarpet Posts: 202


On 2011-09-14 17:13:19, mr_lou wrote:
I'm done with SE.

It makes no sense why they start making phones that gives so low quality audio, when they have done devices that gives great audio.

It's like their new trend. Reduce quality for each handset. First make great cameras in W800 and K800, then make a bunch of devices with crap camera.

Just so happens that video-recording is an important factor to me, and ever since Neo disappointed me I've been waiting for the Ray. It just amazes me that it has the same low crap quality, when both Arc and Neo and Ray is supposed to be the same model more or less. Why does only Arc have great audio?

What the hell good does a high resolution do you, if the audio is insanely low? Imagine you assembling a DVD with the recordings you and your girlfriend have made. Volume will constantly go up and down. Up everytime an Arc video is playing, and down everytime a Ray video is playing. Simply unacceptable and I used to think that was below SE quality, but apparently it's the style they intend to stay with. So sad.


What is you firmware version?
If you are running a version older than 4.0.A.2.368, only one of the mics are used for video recording. Starting from this version, both mics should be used during video capturing (stereo sound, should be better quality).
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Posted: 2011-09-14 21:08:56
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mr_lou Posts: 403

Yes, it is 4.0.A.2.368 I'm using, and both mics does record, but only 40-50% as high as the Arc does. I have to use an audio-normalize filter in a video-editor in order to get the same volume.
Same problem with Neo and even worse on Vivaz. I can't believe I've kept on buying their shit for so long, constantly thinking that now they must have fixed it.

I'll be using the audio-normalize filter solution for a little while, and then go other brands from now on. Ray is my last SE phone.
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Posted: 2011-09-14 21:18:52
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mr_lou Posts: 403

Well, updated girlfriends Arc yesterday, and now it has the same low crap audio as Neo and Ray.
Not as bad as Vivaz Pro, but definitely too poor to be useful.

Audio in SE Aino and Nokia N82 is much better.

Check for yourself.

Arc, Neo and Ray needs that same record-volume as Aino before video-recording can be used for anything. (And how the Vivaz ever got away with being branded as a video-recorder I have no clue. It's completely useles for that exact function).
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Posted: 2011-09-15 14:32:17
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Run_dawn10 Posts: 150

Why are you using a phone for proper video recording?
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Posted: 2011-09-15 14:43:06
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mr_lou Posts: 403


On 2011-09-15 14:43:06, Run_dawn10 wrote:
Why are you using a phone for proper video recording?


Because the manufacturer says it can be used for it, and I don't want to carry two devices with me, and the (image) quality is quite good enough for me, even on Aino (except in dark surroundings).

Don't call it proper video-recording then, whatever you mean by that. I can definitely settle for phone quality from N82 and Aino. And I'd rather keep on using Aino with proper audio, than superb Full-HD^2 + crap audio.
[ This Message was edited by: mr_lou on 2011-09-15 14:13 ]

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Posted: 2011-09-15 15:09:52
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pt020 Posts: > 500

@Bonovox
You had the Xperia Mini Pro and now you played with the Ray ... what phone did you like more?
Thanks.
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Posted: 2011-09-15 15:55:28
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mr_lou Posts: 403


On 2011-09-15 15:24:00, Bonovox wrote:
Screen is too narrow for my liking.


I like the size of Ray. It's exactly the size for an Android device I've been waiting for ever since Android devices started coming out.
Now if only they'd fix the audio-recording, it would be perfect for me.
But I guess I have to look to XDA-developers if I want the perfect device.
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Posted: 2011-09-15 16:09:31
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