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I can confirm what ArchDragoon is saying.
In manual mode, you CAN adjust ISO and shutter speed at the same time. Previously, if you went to adjust one, the other would switch back to AUTO, but with the latest update to oreo, you can adjust both. It is truly full manual. I just wish they allowed for longer shutter speeds than 1 second.
Also, i was just reading about google's visual core chip. Why can't sony do that? In their P&S cameras they have a bionz chip. They should do the same on their phones instead of the software bionz that is currently implemented. Perhaps that is why the phone image processing never compares to what their dedicated cameras can produce.
I was looking at some photos my brother took with his pixel 2 xl and wow.. it's just amazing what google's AI processing can do. makes me jealous for the first time EVER about another phone's camera.
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Posted: 2017-11-30 03:00:02
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Funny comment I've always see in my country... SONY don't want to make a good camera for Xperia as it will affect sale of compact camera line...
Let see if what joseph has been told is true or false. The impressive camera of the next year's Xperia.
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Posted: 2017-11-30 03:36:01
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yea i've heard that before. but no matter what Sony does, they can't fit a 1" sensor into a phone and make it slim. Those are for the dedicated cameras. So, even if they incorporated the same image processing power, the sensor and the lenses on actual cameras will always be superior. i don't think putting in better image processing will take away from their camera line. they'd be making more money overall cause they'd be selling more phones, which get replaced a whole lot more often than dedicated cameras.
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Posted: 2017-11-30 04:05:39
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On 2017-11-30 04:05:39, moogoo wrote:
yea i've heard that before. but no matter what Sony does, they can't fit a 1" sensor into a phone and make it slim. Those are for the dedicated cameras. So, even if they incorporated the same image processing power, the sensor and the lenses on actual cameras will always be superior. i don't think putting in better image processing will take away from their camera line. they'd be making more money overall cause they'd be selling more phones, which get replaced a whole lot more often than dedicated cameras.
Well, I suppose in theory a 1" or close to 1" sensor could fit into a phone with that new design with lenses on the sensor. But at the same time that would likely increase the bill of materials for the phone significantly. But then again Sony is using a 1" sensor on practically everything so who knows...
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Posted: 2017-11-30 06:15:35
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@arch and @moogoo Thank you.. I did not know it was changed on android 8.
About camera, I've read same too. That in Japan ppl still carry pocket cameras and it brings good profits.
But everything we see on the phone comes from their cameras.
Phones will never replace cameras.
While imx300 has 7.87mm diagonal the Alpha have more than 35mm I guess.
A 10.5 mm diagonal with 20MP would be more than enough.
Behind f1.8 ( with it is possible to have natural colors, not like Samsung)
Something else...
Do you guys think some tech sites get money to say good or bad about phones before they review them?
I think it is a joke when U11 and XZP get lower score than some phones that do bring half they have.
I know ppl can have different experiences, but one website says the phone is amazing then another site says to be disappointed.
How is that possible?
It is like you give 9/10, then someone gives 7.7/10.
[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2017-11-30 07:49 ]
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Posted: 2017-11-30 08:29:31
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Hi Moe87,
Of course there are some site like that. Not so many of review site that's impartial and honest.
Therefore we will have to look at many review before making decision as well as you must know what exactly do you want.
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Posted: 2017-11-30 09:02:16
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Sony Mobile 2018 XPERIA style design inspiration
By: Leaks
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Posted: 2017-11-30 09:58:05
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I hope the screen is flat.
I read months ago that JDI has tech to make curved LCD too.
Glass replaced by plastic like the Poled.
I have seen a few concepts that show the Y.
It looks nice and premium.
But does not look confortable to hold in landscape lile Z3
[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2017-11-30 09:21 ]
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Posted: 2017-11-30 10:19:27
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Maybe ARC Design
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Posted: 2017-11-30 10:28:38
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There is nothing inspiring about that apple pie box design, its totally impractical. I expect a normal block but made pretty.
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Posted: 2017-11-30 14:31:09
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