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On 2014-02-26 13:19:20, DexterMoser wrote:
@Ardian:
Wasn't there something exceptional about the Z2 that you couldn't tell us before the announcement?
I'm just curious, what was it?
for that you have to have more time mate
... new flagship
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Posted: 2014-02-26 16:48:39
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On 2014-02-26 16:48:39, ardian wrote:
for that you have to have more time mate
... new flagship
Arc + Z2 = Z3
?
Also, is it still correct that the Ultras / Compacts (/Tablets) get updated yearly and the "real" flagships (i.e. Z, Z1, Z2) get refreshed every half year?
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Posted: 2014-02-26 17:00:15
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@Detox
I would say more like, w-oled or 2k ips display (2k while preserving the same battery life
) and bigger camera sensor with dual LED. i would say also sapphire glass for front and back but that would still be unrealistic.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-02-26 16:07 ]
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Posted: 2014-02-26 17:06:53
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On 2014-02-26 17:00:15, Detox wrote:
On 2014-02-26 16:48:39, ardian wrote:
for that you have to have more time mate
... new flagship
Arc + Z2 = Z3
?
Also, is it still correct that the Ultras / Compacts (/Tablets) get updated yearly and the "real" flagships (i.e. Z, Z1, Z2) get refreshed every half year?
well most likely will be that but... you know japanese people sometimes act so strange (i dont want to offend someone) you got it right....
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Posted: 2014-02-26 17:11:32
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I seem to remember a past rumour about an Xperia Arc shaped flagship in the pipeline.
I'd like to see a super-slim 5.2", Xperia T/TX/Arc shaped flagship launched in time for the Summer.
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Posted: 2014-02-26 17:50:01
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On 2014-02-26 17:06:53, amirprog wrote:
@Detox
I would say more like, w-oled or 2k ips display (2k while preserving the same battery life
) and bigger camera sensor with dual LED. i would say also sapphire glass for front and back but that would still be unrealistic.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-02-26 16:07 ]
If Sony are rolling out phosphor-based LED tech to their flagship models (XTZ2, XZ2) and the reception is positive, I would be surprised to see a switch to something like w-OLED so rapidly, especially if Sony has licensed the technology for a defined period like they did for Triluminos QD tech. Financially speaking, it would be a waste of licence and additional cost to change designs in quick succession.
You are better off making most of the licence and blocking out a large supply order to achieve lower unit costs. Partially explains the Xperia panel lottery last year. Even IGZO isn't perfect and Sharp reportedly sunk 10 years of R&D into it.
2K may sound overkill on a 5" phone, but then again a few years ago people said 1080P on a 5" phone was unnecessary. If it can be done without any drawbacks (high manufacturing cost, battery life), your wish will likely come true. Engineering is about compromises. However, I'd expect to see 2K rolled out on tablets first; perhaps the XTZ3.
Sony put a lot into their camera R&D and a larger sensor is inevitable. Don't expect an APSC-sized sensor anytime soon, but incremental improvements are a certainty. The question is where. As far as I can tell, the 20.7 Exmor RS already makes use of their new "Stacked CMOS" structure which improves low-light sensitivity in Sony's other sensors. 4K recording was added for the Z2. Adding Optical Image Stabilisation (not SteadyShot) would be a safe bet and I'd expect the new BIONZ-X processor to find its way into Xperia products too, but after that things get more speculative.
You never know about sapphire glass. Rumours continue to swirl about Apple snapping up sapphire glass supply, so if Apple could secure it for a massive iPhone 6 order, Sony possibly could too for a smaller run. It is plausible though that Apple intends to use sapphire in an iWatch-like device instead. The tech is already readily employed in commercial products. My own watch is made from sapphire glass.
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Posted: 2014-02-26 18:32:29
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@Smaug
In one hand, i agree about the color LED reason, but in the other hand, samsung will dictate 2k to all other companies (or other advancement in display) when s5.1 announced in the coming months. imo sony should react with 2k or something else like w-oled ,sooner then later. i think that even if 2k brings only subtle change then it's worth it as long as they can preserve the same battery life. it's evolution. i tend to agree 2k and also w-oled will come only next year but maybe sony will surprise. i think that at least the next ultra needs to have something new for display and not only that color LED tech as it has big display and it's one per year device.
yeah, probably... btw, they say that LTPS and superior to IGZO - i'm wondering if Z2 display is LTPS because they use JDI panels and in JDI site they say that their 5.2" is LTPS.
i read that the next big thing in smartphone cameras is dual lens like htc is going for, read this:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/[....]Src=email#lf_comment=141449455
where is sony in this matter? i would expect to hear rumors on a dual lenses in development from sony as they are the leaders in camera sensors.
i read somewhere that the cost of manufacturing sapphire glass is always going down and soon it will get not far from gorilla glass cost. i would love if sony does it this year but i doubt that.
this is why sony's goal needs to be one flagship per year so they can surprise. for Z3 it's like, you don't think they can even surprise in something. like new tech is to costly, etc.
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Posted: 2014-02-26 19:32:40
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Some Sony news here
http://www.twice.com/articlet[....]es-will-close-20-stores/110107
Sony U.S. Restructures; Will Close 20 Stores
stock went up a bit, guess, it really isn't necessary to have retail chain anymore as long as you can stock your stuffs at bestbuy.
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Posted: 2014-02-26 20:33:01
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They need to fire or change their PR in the states too. Sony Mobile US has the worst consumer engagement compared to other regions. You can ask them something and they either won't reply or will give the "We'll let you know once we have more details" answer. While other regions are able to give an approximate date when something is arriving, the US community manager never gives a time. It's frustrating to consumers not knowing if something is coming or when it's coming. This is one reason I've never bought my devices from Sony US, but rather import them.
What's funny is some people ask when something is coming, the community manager says they have no details, then the product pops up on the site the next day.
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Posted: 2014-02-26 21:31:21
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On 2014-02-26 21:31:21, unknown13x wrote:
They need to fire or change their PR in the states too. Sony Mobile US has the worst consumer engagement compared to other regions. You can ask them something and they either won't reply or will give the "We'll let you know once we have more details" answer. While other regions are able to give an approximate date when something is arriving, the US community manager never gives a time. It's frustrating to consumers not knowing if something is coming or when it's coming. This is one reason I've never bought my devices from Sony US, but rather import them.
What's funny is some people ask when something is coming, the community manager says they have no details, then the product pops up on the site the next day.
Going by some of the ZOMG posts, it seems like the mobile department were only given a budget and resources where they only have enough to do a big marketing push in EU and other regions where they are strong at. The supposed PR manager in NA is probably just a figure head where all the decisions are still being made by the same people that runs other region.
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Posted: 2014-02-26 22:10:17
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