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Away Posts: > 500


On 2014-02-27 08:28:35, amirprog wrote:

@Away
going for 2k is evolution. maybe you can delay it but you can't stop it.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-02-27 07:37 ]



Read what I wrote again.

It genuinely seems Sony take criticism seriously in mobile. The Z1 over the Z - better screen, albeit still not good enough; better camera let down only by bad software; the most competitive hardware; slightly more ergonomic.

Then from the Z1 to Z2 - cleaned up the rest. Screen with viewing angles (still see very little point from all those angles - admit it's useful sometimes though); screen with better contrast; better speakers; even 'little' things in the general public like no shatterproof film; better camera software.

They are still integrating all their technologies, it's a slow process, until we finally get to the point they are all there. The camera guys need to get there asap.
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Xajel Posts: > 500

^^^

I hope the next move will be 32GB internal standard on all flag-ships.. not just US versions
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Posted: 2014-02-27 10:51:14
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amirprog Posts: > 500

@Away
Ok, i understand.
@Xajel
let's not get our hopes high. no company wants to dictate it as not much consumers criticize it, it probably saves a bit of money for manufacturing, micro sd can be always an excuse and its not a "wow" upgrade... so they do nothing.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-02-27 10:21 ]

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Posted: 2014-02-27 11:17:21
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Smaug Posts: 48

@Wintermute

Do you have any knowledge on how Sony deploys Triluminos for Mobile as compared to Triluminos in BRAVIA? It's believed that Triluminos on Xperia is a software only solution, while BRAVIA uses hardware-based Quantum Dot technology licenced from QD Vision to enhance the original backlight. It is based on their Colour IQ process.

However, this is difficult to verify. It may be more "common opinion" that turned into accepted fact. Sony have not clearly distinguished differences - if any - between Xperia's Triluminos for Mobile and BRAVIA's Triluminos. I'm personally sceptical of running both this Live Colour phosphor-based LED that is then passed through a Triluminos QD layer. While technically feasible, this would not only increase your manufacturing cost and complexity but for a diminishing return as they achieve the same thing: vivid, accurate colour rendering with a very wide gamut.

Triluminos on BRAVIA, from my basic understanding, essentially splits the blue LED into narrow wavelengths of green and red by energising the QD nanocrystals. Phosphor-coated LEDs (double coated in green and red for the new XZ2/XT2) would thus require filtering of numerous wavelengths. Why go to twice the trouble when one or the other would suffice? It would be like purifying your tap water twice. Triluminos relies on blue LED light, but Live Colour LEDs would be emitting RGB. A hardware-based Triluminos for Mobile would likely require significant modification - again, for little tangible benefit.

Note Sony claim the Tablet Z2 is the world's first application of their phosphor LED tech. Since false marketing can land you in hot water, this indicates the Tablet Z used a different colour rendering process.
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Posted: 2014-02-27 11:59:51
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itsjustJOH Posts: > 500

I do believe that the mobile Triluminos is software since Sony has not explained the hardware process like how they explained QD tech and how it is being utilized in their BRAVIAs with Triluminos. Live Colour LED is hardware, no doubt. Why they used Triluminos as software and Live Colour as hardware in the Xperias but the other way around in the BRAVIAs, we could only wonder.

EDIT: Erica Griffin made a test to see how much wider the Triluminos screen of the Z Ultra is compared to the standard white LED backlight gamut. It is wider, but not as much making the claim of software Triluminos more valid.

Xperia Z Ultra: What is Triluminos?
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2014-02-27 13:06 ]

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Posted: 2014-02-27 13:18:20
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kats11 Posts: 1

Next up

Pegasus ultra2?

Leo Z3?

Aries Z3f?
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Posted: 2014-02-27 14:11:18
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Smaug Posts: 48


On 2014-02-27 14:11:18, kats11 wrote:
Next up

Pegasus ultra2?

Leo Z3?

Aries Z3f?


NightWing, is that you again?
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Posted: 2014-02-27 14:23:52
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itsjustJOH Posts: > 500

^You've been here before?
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Posted: 2014-02-27 14:25:09
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Smaug Posts: 48


On 2014-02-27 13:18:20, itsjustJOH wrote:

EDIT: Erica Griffin made a test to see how much wider the Triluminos screen of the Z Ultra is compared to the standard white LED backlight gamut. It is wider, but not as much making the claim of software Triluminos more valid.

Xperia Z Ultra: What is Triluminos?
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2014-02-27 13:06 ]



Thanks for the link itsjustJOH. Interesting... pretty clear breakdown: you get a small improvement but not the 50% gamut increase that Sony claims. Some decent software-based image post-processing could essentially achieve that for Z Ultra.

Not that I'm knocking the Z Ultra or its display. In the words of Engadget: "The best phone you'll probably never buy".

What is clear is that regardless of hardware/software Triluminos enhancements, with its modifications plus the X-Reality engine, Live Colour LEDs, switching to IPS panels etc you get the feeling Sony is sinking a lot into their displays recently. Here's hoping they get the recognition they deserve rather than the usual fawning over SAMOLED.

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Yes, I've been ghosting these forums since rumours started on the XZ. Seen the various iterations of Nodarsixar, but lets not jump to conclusions. We should welcome anyone who has something to contribute to the community. Perhaps he knows something we don't
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Posted: 2014-02-27 14:37:43
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itsjustJOH Posts: > 500

^I'd like to see how wide the gamut on the Z2 and the Z2 Tablet is. I know QDs produce narrowband reds and greens so gamut would be as close to OLED, so I'm really curious how those red and green phosphors would perform.


On 2014-02-27 14:37:43, Smaug wrote:

Yes, I've been ghosting these forums since rumours started on the XZ. Seen the various iterations of Nodarsixar, but lets not jump to conclusions. We should welcome anyone who has something to contribute to the community. Perhaps he knows something we don't


I don't know but his Googling powers are really good.
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2014-02-27 15:47 ]

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