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@Dogmann
I'm no longer going to bore others by going back and forth with you about insignificant details. I've clearly explained myself enough. You seem to be of the small few who have problems comprehending my statements. Obviously, neither of us is going to budge from our positions. In the scope of everything, our opinions are inconsequential to market outcome of these devices anyways.
I will accept the title of being a stubborn idiot, since it obviously makes you feel bigger.
Dogmann wrote:
The definition of an idiot
Every one makes mistakes the wise person learns from them.
The idiot keeps on repeating them.
It's easy to see which one of the two you fall into isn't it?
Marc
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repeatedly allow an idiot to piss you off makes you an idiot also, doesn't it?
So, go read your OWN quote in the mirror! 
And yes, X1 is still the better device. I don't care if HTC, Fisher-Price, or Nabisco makes it. Many other will agree.
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Posted: 2008-07-16 08:38:47
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On 2008-07-16 08:38:47, WhyBe wrote:
@Dogmann
I'm no longer going to bore others by going back and forth with you about insignificant details. I've clearly explained myself enough.
Whybe, I don't often leap to the defence of Dogmann, but here he has you bang to rights. The presence of Touch Flo (a propietary HTC ui developed exclusively for HTC phones) gives the lie to this whole idea that the X1's software is entirely SE developed.
When you accept, as you must, that HTC are heavily involved in the software as well as the hardware implementation, then really this fantasy of the X1 being in some kind of different league to the likes of the Touch Pro goes out the window. And frankly, if you knew anything about WM devices and the clear advantage that HTC's WM devices have had to date over the competition, you wouldn't be too troubled by that either.
But please, drop this idea that SE are about to teach everyone else how to make a Windows Mobile phone. With or without HTC's involvement, all the hard evidence so far is that this is will be a 100% standard Windows Mobile phone, with all the same WM apps for messaging etc, and the panels thrown in for a bit of wow factor. It will be in direct competition with the Touch Pro, and it will have a hard time justifying it's likely "premium" price tag over the ubiquitous HTC equivalent, especially in these credit crunched times. The vast majority of people who actually use Windows Mobile handsets like this are not "bleeding edge PIMPS" looking for something to look shiny next to their cigar cutters, but practical, professional people looking for the best power/reliability for the least cash - and I'll bet that's the Touch Pro.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2008-07-16 08:41 ]
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Posted: 2008-07-16 09:12:09
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Cut the faff guys when is it gonna be out? *Hello* Sony Ericsson? Or still there is network problem? lol
Am serious guys get some news
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Posted: 2008-07-16 09:22:11
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@Dogmann, @Boinng, @mario2004 & others who disagree with me:
You're right. I'm wrong.
No one is going to be bothered with this overpriced rebranded HTC. SE is delaying it's release to make everyone THINK they are making something special. Ultimately, when released, the X1 will be a huge let down because people will realize it's just another typical WM device. They waited for nothing.
Now, did I say that well enough???
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Posted: 2008-07-16 10:15:35
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On 2008-07-16 09:22:11, Indiandawg wrote:
Cut the faff guys when is it gonna be out? *Hello* Sony Ericsson? Or still there is network problem? lol
My guess is late September/ early October. No one seems to know. One thing is for sure though...
Come Q4,
ALL OTHERS WILL BOW DOWN to SE_X1!!!
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Posted: 2008-07-16 10:19:04
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On 2008-07-16 10:15:35, WhyBe wrote:
@Dogmann, @Boinng, @mario2004 & others who disagree with me:
You're right. I'm wrong.
No one is going to be bothered with this overpriced rebranded HTC. SE is delaying it's release to make everyone THINK they are making something special. Ultimately, when released, the X1 will be a huge let down because people will realize it's just another typical WM device. They waited for nothing.
Now, did I say that well enough???
Works for me
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Posted: 2008-07-16 10:43:38
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On 2008-07-16 10:19:04, WhyBe wrote:
On 2008-07-16 09:22:11, Indiandawg wrote:
Cut the faff guys when is it gonna be out? *Hello* Sony Ericsson? Or still there is network problem? lol
My guess is late September/ early October. No one seems to know. One thing is for sure though...
Come Q4,
ALL OTHERS WILL BOW DOWN to SE_X1!!!
Not before November i think. The SE official E-shop anounces their "coming soon"-phones. They list up phones until October. X1 is marked with "TBA". From that I conclude with November if not later.....
os
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Posted: 2008-07-16 10:55:34
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On 2008-07-16 04:06:34, WhyBe wrote:
On 2008-07-16 03:46:02, drgopoos wrote:
... i dont fully agree that x1 is very different from pro.... Both of them are going to cater to the same market. But people who go for looks, will go for x1 and those who look for reliablity will go for htc... Essentially both of them are the same except for the superficial user interface.. deep inside they might just be the same...
So how is one more reliable than the other? Or are you talking software reliability?
I haven't seen any thorough "hands-on" TouchPro reviews yet. Can you link to one? Or should we assume that it's the same as the Diamond?
Thanks
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Reliability , may not have been the right word , but what i meant was more to do with modding the handset to fits ones needs.
In xda forum, there are people who have had their hands on test version of HTC pro and even there have been efforts to dump the rom.
I dont think we can assume its same as diamond, as the specs its self are very much different.
Gopa
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Posted: 2008-07-16 11:40:19
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sorry if this has been asked before,
but has there been any word as to what carriers, if any, in the US that will pick up X1? I would assume the only carrier would be T-mobile, as ATT already has iphone and picking up the X1 would probably hamper iphone sales.
Any info is appreciated.
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Posted: 2008-07-16 21:05:47
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Feels like this phone has been announced ages ago, yet it's still not on the market
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Posted: 2008-07-16 22:51:53
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