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Gitaroo Posts: > 500

they can also use metal for the back right? Just hope its not plastic and exclusive to low end phones. I think the if it curve out on the back they can put the camera behind the screen so they can shrink down the top and bottom bezel.
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Posted: 2014-03-02 15:02:00
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Smaug Posts: 48


On 2014-03-02 15:02:00, Gitaroo wrote:
they can also use metal for the back right? Just hope its not plastic and exclusive to low end phones. I think the if it curve out on the back they can put the camera behind the screen so they can shrink down the top and bottom bezel.


Indeed.

On your first point, yes you can use metal on the back (perhaps treated aluminium). However, there is that question over cost. The iPhone 5s and 5c's different casing gives a very rough indication of cost differences between plastic and (flat) glass, and that is with Apple's purchasing power (presumably greater than Sony).

On your second point, I was thinking the same thing. Omni-balance design has been well received, but it can have drawbacks. In examining the Z1, the camera module appears too large (i.e. fat) to sit behind the screen so it must go on top. In keeping the Omni-balance symmetry, this then dictates the bottom bezel must share similar proportions. Notice Sony publicised slimming down the side bezels for the T2 Ultra, but made no mention of top/bottom.

An Arc-like design would solve this trade-off. You can still get Omni-balance symmetry, but with the wider top/bottom you could theoretically fit a large sensor behind the screen while thinning out the bezels. There's even talk about curved battery cells, but this may not be ready in time and/or push the cost out too much.
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Posted: 2014-03-02 15:27:24
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amirprog Posts: > 500

@Smaug
Nice to know. either curved metal or glass would be truly wow but i think that glass is a better option (and in not a distant future, sapphire) because it cannot mess with reception.
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Posted: 2014-03-02 15:30:17
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Ricky D Posts: > 500

They could use metal for the back but the design would have to be smart in the way it incorporates the mobile antenna.

HTC get around this by having a weird looking line of some description breaking up the design, Apple infamously put the antenna in the frame which didn't work out so great, Asus had to quickly redesign one of their transformer tablets because they forgot to think about the antenna, iPad has a plastic strip at the back to accommodate the antenna components.

To my mind none of the above are ideal solutions. The Xperia P (or was it U?) had an alu back and placed the antenna in the transparent strip, if you looked closely you could see the criss-cross conductor patterns through the strip. I don't think a metal back is the best material for a smartphone. It looks and feels nice but the nature of the material offers restrictions to the core functions of the device.

I would like to see some of the wooden backed Arc prototypes come to market though. If it's properly finished wood it should be waterproofed enough.
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Posted: 2014-03-02 15:35:27
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amirprog Posts: > 500

@Ricky D
+1 for wood. moto x looks pretty cool with the wooden back.
but you forgot about sapphire - no reception problems and it resist the most (?) to scratches and falls after diamond and looks more futuristic then wood. or maybe wood and sapphire! for the sophisticated mind.
NOT metal or plastic back sony!
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-03-02 15:04 ]

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Posted: 2014-03-02 16:01:15
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my ninja Posts: > 500

@Ardian... the photos on page 131

real/fake should we expect that kind of bezel in the next device?

if so... i can wait, else.
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Posted: 2014-03-02 16:17:33
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vivftp Posts: > 500

Very anxious to learn more about the next Ultra. Hoping they'll delay its release so that it's launched along with the next flagship, and both will have identical feature sets. I'm kinda doubtful that'll happen though, and the Ultra will be launched in the summer and will be part way between the Z2 and next flagship in specs/features. Gonna make it a bit harder to decide what to upgrade to from my current Ultra.

OTOH, my carrier didn't even get the Ultra in the first place, so if they don't pick up the next Ultra, then I suppose that'll make my decision easier
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Posted: 2014-03-02 17:08:50
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hihihans Posts: > 500

It would make perfect sense if they released a 4" 5" and 6" with identical specs at the same time. That would save them lots of development money.
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Posted: 2014-03-02 17:31:20
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vivftp Posts: > 500

Indeed it would be nice for them to launch all 3 together. On the other hand, by releasing a Compact at the start of the year, a flagship soon after, an Ultra in the Summer and another flagship in the Fall, they are keeping their devices in the news pretty much year round.

Ah well, wait and see I suppose.
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Posted: 2014-03-02 17:37:39
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itsjustJOH Posts: > 500

I expect the Z3 family on IFA. The Z3, Z3 Compact, Z3 Ultra and the Z3 Tablet.
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Posted: 2014-03-02 17:37:48
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