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razec
not my words, only translation from review
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Posted: 2008-09-30 10:14:50
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On 2008-09-30 10:14:50, Raiderski wrote:
razec
not my words, only translation from review
oh sorry then
so its eldar who says so. them probably he has too bright eyesight. also lowlight performance was shown in favor of shiho(i prefer using this name
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Posted: 2008-09-30 10:53:19
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On 2008-09-30 01:27:03, mario2004 wrote:
People, a point and shot camera it must be just that ! Point and Shot ! While the handfull of freaks among us does not mind fiddling with controls after 'pointing' and before 'shooting', the vast majority of users do mind !
Mario, myself and Hiron have now replied to this 3 times. Adjusting the EV down 1 or 2 steps is not exactly 'fiddling' with the settings is it? The control is under your thumb as you take the picture.
If you can see the picture is overexposed in the viewfinder, you don't take the picture do you? I have a £300 Panasonic TZ-5, which is Point and Shoot, but like
every Point and Shoot camera in the world it won't get it right everytime.
You have the wrong idea what a Point and Shoot Camera does. A point and shoot camera doesn't mean that it should always set up the perfect light balance and focus 100% everytime, like you are suggesting. It just means the
estimated required settings are made for you, but it's up the
Photographer, not the camera to take a good picture!
Eldar takes bad pictures, not because the camera is poor, but because he is a bad photographer. Even my 65 year old mother knows that when the picture 'looks to bright', to try again! Yet Eldar posts these pictures, suggesting it's all the camera is capable of.
You can see from Virgile Fontaines pics what the C905 can do. Clearly there is nothing at all wrong with the firmware or hardware, just a bad Photographer with an
aversion.
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Posted: 2008-09-30 11:43:38
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People who buy camphones expect it to deliver decent pics, straight out of the box, people who don't, buy DSLR's, bring on the next set of lame excuses please.
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Posted: 2008-09-30 11:53:14
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On 2008-09-30 11:53:14, MWEB wrote:
People who buy camphones expect it to deliver decent pics, straight out of the box, people who don't, buy DSLR's, bring on the next set of lame excuses please.
What excuses? The phone does deliver great pictures out of the box. Did I suggest any modifications? No. Just use it properly on a sunny day!
Everyone else on the web posted great pictures, but Eldar did not. Wow, what a surprise.
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Posted: 2008-09-30 12:08:08
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On 2008-09-30 12:08:08, marty mcfly wrote:
On 2008-09-30 11:53:14, MWEB wrote:
People who buy camphones expect it to deliver decent pics, straight out of the box, people who don't, buy DSLR's, bring on the next set of lame excuses please.
What excuses? The phone does deliver great pictures out of the box. Did I suggest any modifications? No. Just use it properly on a sunny day!
Everyone else on the web posted great pictures, but Eldar did not. Wow, what a surprise.
I thought we were done with conspiracy theories here on Esato
, It's always sad to see sane people huffing and puffing with all their might trying to elevate the average into something substantialy better
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C905 pics are fine, but no better than the innov8 i have in the house
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Posted: 2008-09-30 12:16:10
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I thought we were done with conspiracy theories here on Esato
, It's always sad to see sane people huffing and puffing with all their might trying to elevate the average into something substantialy better
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C905 pics are fine, but no better than the innov8 i have in the house
Again, I never said that either. I know the C905 pictures and the InnoV8 are the same quality. I have never even mentioned that.
I'm saying people who can't take a good photograph in clear daylight have no place criticising them.
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Posted: 2008-09-30 12:20:28
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On 2008-09-30 11:53:14, MWEB wrote:
People who buy camphones expect it to deliver decent pics, straight out of the box, people who don't, buy DSLR's, bring on the next set of lame excuses please.
excuse me but
even k800 and k750 suffers from out of focus pics with minor handshakes. just like what eldar experiences with c905. but it does not mean that its not a good cam phone.
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Posted: 2008-09-30 12:21:40
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It may have little problems with shaking hands when focusing, but the things will get interesting when camera driver modding for C905 start.
As it's platform will be cracked soon, it would be modded to death imho.
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Posted: 2008-09-30 12:51:36
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Not wishing to labour the point, but, i have seen (as have many members here and elsewhere) hundreds, if not thousands of pictures taken by Eldar, using hundreds of different devices, never heard a pipsqueek about his photographic efforts untill this thread came along, that kinda places the onus on the errors of judgement and abilities being laid at other peoples door's IMO.
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Posted: 2008-09-30 13:00:41
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