Vita phone would be just as amazing, have a vita myself...but i'm not sure how it would work...i love playstation but just couldn't bring myself to get the xperia play, not because of anything against android or the form factor (i think the form factor is great for xperia play) but because playstation mobile (previously suite) just doesn't cut it right now as a games platform. I got a vita because the games are great...but i can't see myself holding the thing up to my face for a phone call...right now, its perfect for skype. i kinda hope sony doesn't release an xperia play 2 cos it would be quite a useless device. dont want them to waste time and money.
back to phones, what exactly will mint bring thats so much better than the hayabusa?
Well, a Vitaphone along the lines of the Xperia Play would work just hunky dory. Sure it'll be thicker than your average high end phone, but that's alright if the gamepad is anywhere close to what the Vita can do. I doubt they could fit actual joysticks onto a slider phone and make it work, but even nubs like the PSP would be great.
As for PSM, all we've seen from it so far are a bit of Sonys own efforts. With it now being open to the public, I should hope that it'll take off as a viable option for apps and games. If it becomes big enough, we could see Sony try to launch their own OS onto phones and tablets to compete with iOS, Android, Windows and everyone else. They can even still keep their toes dipped into Android with PSM so they'll get the best of both worlds in a way.
From what we can tell of leaked info, it'll have a larger screen, LTE capabilities, a different appearance that I suppose some will like and some will hate, going by other peoples impressions. I don't suppose we have any other info at this point.
On 2012-06-20 09:22:44, vivftp wrote:
On 2012-06-20 09:06:44, justus333 wrote:
It's important to remember that all the phones we're seeing are still remnants of the Sony Ericsson joint venture. They were designed while they were SE, and they're simply seeing those plans through. From what I understand of the matter, it typically takes 1-2 years to get a phone from nothingness to market, and SMC hasn't been around that long. More than likely we won't see completely originally designed Sony phones until 2013. With the potential hope that they'll be incorporating tech from their various divisions (PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE I want a high end Cybershot phone!), we should definately not discount Sony as a viable option.
Many of us here (myself included, admittedly) are high-end phone whores and mostly look to that to see where a company stands amongst the others. As many others have so wisely pointed out though, that's just a tiny segment of the market as a whole and Sony's been releasing some mighty kickass devices so far this year to try and cover as many market segments as possible. True they don't yet have an ultra uber super duper almighty high end device on the market yet, but there's still plenty of time in the year for that to happen.
Come on! This argument that these phones are SE phones is a fallacy.
Sony took charge of SE for the last couple of years and they are the ones who were making this phones, Ericsson had become a passenger. You Sony fans ignore the statement made by Bert that SE had become Sony in the last couple of years. So, these phones are Sony creations.
No wonder Ericsson decided to sell their half of the joint-venture, their input was probably non-existent. If you want Sony to be competitive then stop making excuses for them and hammer them when they screw up.
Sony Corporation is failing because of poor management, decision-making and living in the past without considering the competition and the consumers.
The same mess that Sony created within SE is still within Sony mobile.
Don't you guys see the same thing happening over and over again? Sony is flooding the market with the same phones as when they did with SE, think the many variants of the walkman and cybershot phones that were the same thing except for the model numbers. Now we have Tapiocas, Us, etc, which doesn't make sense to me.
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No one is trying to make excuses for Sony. They may have been primarily in charge the last couple of years, but we also know Sony was reluctant to share a lot of its technologies in a joint venture. Heck, even internally the different divisions of Sony never really spoke with one another or shared tech. Case in point, when tablets were becoming popular there were 3 to 4 divisions of Sony each working on their own tablets and didn't even know the other projects existed. It wasn't until Kaz discovered this that a stop was put to all that and they began working towards a single product. Now that Kaz is in charge, he has commited to breaking down the silos in Sony and having the different divisions openly work together. A recent interview with Yoshida from SCE indicates that this is actually working out for his division, and we can only hope the same is happening with SMC.
The Sony you're referring to is gone now, but the products we are getting are their legacy. We have yet to see what the One Sony initiative will be able to produce.
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I am glad you agree with what I wrote about Sony being practically in charge of SE and that these phones we see today are Sony creations. That was my whole point.
Sony was reluctant to 'share' ther technology with SE because they underestimated the market and the competition, it was never about the joint-venture.
I never wrote that Sony is incapable of changing but that they shouldn't be treated with kid gloves.
If you go back a few pages, you will see where I wrote that I am looking forward to seeing and buying a Sony quad-core phone next year, that means I still believe they can turn this around if they put in a lot of effort.
I will still be here next year (God-willing) and if Sony screws up I will criticise them and never buy their product unlike some who hold on even if Sony gives them rubbish products.
The last phone I bought with a Sony name on it was/is the wonderful P1i and I haven't supported them financially since then because they sucked.
Right now they have nothing interesting for me and so I won't buy any of their products. If, however, their quad-core phone for next year is not competitive enough (for me) then I will buy something else.
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I asked Harold de Kort about the 12th of July
https://twitter.com/harolddekort/status/215338635178934273
https://twitter.com/rubenkroes/status/215377827351101440
http://translate.google.com/
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WTF is going on here?!!?!! NO ION & NO HAYABUSA FOR EUROPE???!!! ONLY FOR ASIA?!!!!??! IN HELL WITH YA SONY!!! 
YOU'VE BANGED MY HEAD ALL YEARS!!! AFTER THE ARC ONLY SHIT CAME FROM YOU!!! IT'S GAME OVER!!! I'LL BURY MY HOLY ARC WHEN IT DIES...
...AND YOU INSIDERS GO FIND A NEW JOB!!! 
I COULD SMASH EVERYTHING HERE RIGHT NOW!!! 
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2012-06-20 11:32 ]
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sadly it seems like they became too Asia- and especially japan focused when sony took over
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WTF is going on here?!!?!! NO ION & NO HAYABUSA FOR EUROPE???!!! ONLY FOR ASIA?!!!!??! IN HELL WITH YA SONY!!! YOU'VE BANGED MY HEAD ALL YEARS!!! AFTER THE ARC ONLY SHIT CAME FROM YOU!!! IT'S GAME OVER!!! I'LL BURY MY HOLY ARC WHEN IT DIES...
...AND YOU INSIDERS GO FIND A NEW JOB!!!
I COULD SMASH EVERYTHING HERE RIGHT NOW!!!
Dude, calm down.
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I was dreading this would happen. It turned out the roadmap was for the India/Asian market only and all of the phones we've seen already.
I'm not too worried though, we are still in the first half of 2012 so things can happen in the next few months. Hopefully, something will be announced late summer and be on the shelves before Christmas 2012.
I too am puzzled by the extra weight Mint is carrying. I'm hoping it is going to be a Waterproof / Dustproof GX.
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