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kopritis - what driver did you use for that photo?
I downloaded the full size image and cannot see any evidence of sharpening, which is something I found your previous drivers to have too much of IMO.
Really nice photo - looks really natural.
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Posted: 2007-08-31 13:48:38
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On 2007-08-31 13:48:38, Vinny67 wrote:
kopritis - what driver did you use for that photo?
I downloaded the full size image and cannot see any evidence of sharpening, which is something I found your previous drivers to have too much of IMO.
Really nice photo - looks really natural.
I'm using 2.9 my mod...which i will post to the forum but not right now! i want to make more samples
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Posted: 2007-08-31 13:55:41
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Fantastic - can you give us an idea of what's changed?
Was I right - have you reduced the sharpness?
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Posted: 2007-08-31 14:00:49
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On 2007-08-31 14:00:49, Vinny67 wrote:
Fantastic - can you give us an idea of what's changed?
Was I right - have you reduced the sharpness?
yea i put it back the sharpeness to FF and i "play" with other settings...
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Posted: 2007-08-31 14:04:16
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On 2007-08-31 13:36:51, kopritis wrote:
where is jaggied lines on cobweb??? Still don't get it about the jaggied lines...
I have a 19" TFT wide screen monitor and i don't see jaggied line...
Full size picture download:
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/8153/DSC01180-JPG.html
[ This Message was edited by: kopritis on 2007-08-31 12:41 ]
There aren't any and, i've zoomed right in on the full size image. But then again there are no strong constrasting lines. I'm pretty sure i'd get the same or similar result on my camera. Did you look at the full version of sample I posted? What are your comments on it? Perhaps you could try and take similar photo and see what result you get. I'd love to find out that my camera is faulty but I doubt it is. I've also found white cars to be the most prone to getting the jaggies.
Interesting that you point out you have a 19" LCD monitor. That's what I have at work and it shows up faults much more than my 19" CRT monitor at home. I prefer CRT monitors for looking at pictures as the images come up smoother on a CRT.
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Posted: 2007-08-31 14:10:01
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from my mod 2.9 samples
Full size pic's download:
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/8154/100MSDCF-rar.html
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Posted: 2007-08-31 14:13:29
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On 2007-08-31 14:10:01, mongoose3800 wrote:
There aren't any and, i've zoomed right in on the full size image. But then again there are no strong constrasting lines. I'm pretty sure i'd get the same or similar result on my camera. Did you look at the full version of sample I posted? What are your comments on it? Perhaps you could try and take similar photo and see what result you get. I'd love to find out that my camera is faulty but I doubt it is. I've also found white cars to be the most prone to getting the jaggies.
Interesting that you point out you have a 19" LCD monitor. That's what I have at work and it shows up faults much more than my 19" CRT monitor at home. I prefer CRT monitors for looking at pictures as the images come up smoother on a CRT.
I think it's problem by the software and not from cmos sensor. And the camdriver 2.5 it's a crap from that of k750... I'm not so strong modder to rebuild the driver from start...

[ This Message was edited by: kopritis on 2007-08-31 13:31 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-31 14:31:12
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what about 20, or 25FPS? stil buggy? And i had k750i for one and a half year. It was noisy and sharp (night shots, or in low light conditions). My k810i is worse than a k800, but now, its ok with kopritis 2.8 the only thing that i hate, is the bad WB!! is there any way to fix that?
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Posted: 2007-08-31 15:17:56
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On 2007-08-31 15:17:56, norbi_nw wrote:
what about 20, or 25FPS? stil buggy? And i had k750i for one and a half year. It was noisy and sharp (night shots, or in low light conditions). My k810i is worse than a k800, but now, its ok with kopritis 2.8 the only thing that i hate, is the bad WB!! is there any way to fix that?
yea i thing so... i'm gonna check it! But have you try to put the EV -0.7 or EV -1.0 ?????
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Posted: 2007-08-31 15:27:34
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@mongoose, if that's a close up that you posted first, then it makes more sense. Looking at the 1:1 example it's similiar to a couple of really bad ones I have, and I'll admit that I have noticed it but it doesn't occur frequently enough in my experience to class it as a major irritant (a ittle one, yes). Your building example is particularly bad, however now I realise it's zoomed in I'm not quite so shocked. I don't judge my pictures zoomed in (I zoom in to investigate artifacts, but always assess quality at 1:1. Just seems fair to me that way). Still, it is a disappointing picture, I don't question it.
I put this jagged edge thing in the same league as the white lines in K750 photos. I guess I have, maybe optimistically, felt I or someone here will work out a method to avoid the conditions that set off the worst of the flaw, just as you can do with K750.
tbh, even now I still occasionally take photos with the K750 that are spoiled by white lines that you can't see on the lcd when you are taking the picture. It's frustrating, but that ultimately is the art of photography - no camera is perfect and the most expensive 38MP DSLR is still gonna disappoint at times. It's been the bane of photographers ever since the first dude pointed a black box at someone and said "cheese".
It does prove one thing, a camera phine is still not equavalent to retail digicams, not even in cmos quality, let alone MP. But, camera phones are more fun and portable.
However, I am hopeful still about the jaggies. Once we get control over shutter speed, iso, and try and minimise the post processing being done by the driver (sharpness etc) we might be able to reduce the aliasing.
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Posted: 2007-08-31 16:09:29
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