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On 2005-07-13 17:35:42, 02 wrote:
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yes, from Islam believes, we believe the Bible have been altered and changed... n these changes are made by people not prophets.. therefore the words from the bible will not be able to take account in Islam as its the words are from a normal human bein not prophets... even the most holy Islam man is not allowed to make changes in the Quran.. if im not wrong, tats the reason theres different types of christianity these days... and Islam is just one where ever we are, what we believe and practise...
even my words and peterkay's word are words from the Quran.. we are not allowed to make up something nice just to make you believe Islam is this and that.. thus its creating a sin or might aswell be creating your own religion..
Absolutley correct 02. The Qurans words will never be altered. It is still the same as the days of revelation. Wherever you go in the world you will find the same Quran with the same text and no changes.
This is the beauty of the Islamic religion.
This is what the Quran says in Chapter2 Verse 2:
This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah
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Posted: 2005-07-13 17:46:22
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yeah it is a nice thing to know.
I'm surprised that many Christians didn't know that the Bible was altered, specifically by Kings who did not like some of the rules that were handed down.
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Posted: 2005-07-13 17:49:02
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On 2005-07-13 17:46:22, PeterKay wrote:
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On 2005-07-13 17:35:42, 02 wrote:
from kramer_hpal post
yes, from Islam believes, we believe the Bible have been altered and changed... n these changes are made by people not prophets.. therefore the words from the bible will not be able to take account in Islam as its the words are from a normal human bein not prophets... even the most holy Islam man is not allowed to make changes in the Quran.. if im not wrong, tats the reason theres different types of christianity these days... and Islam is just one where ever we are, what we believe and practise...
even my words and peterkay's word are words from the Quran.. we are not allowed to make up something nice just to make you believe Islam is this and that.. thus its creating a sin or might aswell be creating your own religion..
Absolutley correct 02. The Qurans words will never be altered. It is still the same as the days of revelation. Wherever you go in the world you will find the same Quran with the same text and no changes.
This is the beauty of the Islamic religion.
This is what the Quran says in Chapter2 Verse 2:
This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah
thats what i was trying to tell exactly. sorry if someone get me wrong... (maybe its just my bad english, sorry for any inconvince again)
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Posted: 2005-07-13 17:50:04
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no need to apologise, we know what you mean. Thanks
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Posted: 2005-07-13 17:54:15
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@Kramer_pal
Maybe if someone has The Message, it can be hosted on serchive
or put into Pxxx (Movies/Trailers/Clips) thread.
I didn't realise there were this many muslim brothers on esato.
Keep up the good work.
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Posted: 2005-07-13 18:37:15
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That's how, if I was religious I would see the Bible/Quran, as a GUIDE to living, I wouldn't follow it to the letter, and as many have said, it is open to interpretation, which is one thing which worries me the most about religion.
Perhaps that's how these books are meant to be read - almost as a 'lifestyle' guide for living your life properly and responsibly. When whatever book says 'live by these rules or be damned to hell' or something, what it really means is 'your life may well be empty and you will be sad, no matter how much you deny it to yourself'. 'God' and various prophets are merely characters in this story to illustrate points and how to live a good life free of guilt and without being too selfish, over-indulgent or materialistic.
I hope this makes sense!
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Posted: 2005-07-13 18:42:32
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@sammy boy
Make’s sense to me
I was brought a Christian (although not one now) buy my grandmother, she’s the average kind of English grandmother, brought up during the war, who to be honest is a bit of a racist (although she hated Hitler
) and cant see past her Christianity.
So growing up I was forever being told about the bible. But never once was I told about the bible being changed by kings and others by the Sunday school or church. So thanks I’ve learnt something new today.
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Posted: 2005-07-13 18:53:57
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I also believe that the Jehova's witnesses have their own bible, which their founder changed so that they weren't allowed to do things like donate blood.
It must really cheapen a religion when their holy book is changed depending on the whims and preferences of kings, individuals, cults, etc.
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Posted: 2005-07-13 18:58:52
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I agree completely Sammy, completely. I mean you have the King John bible and others that are different or have been altered.
This message was posted from a T610
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Posted: 2005-07-13 19:39:02
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What are the views of islam on forms of entertainment like art, music, dance etc?
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Posted: 2005-07-13 20:16:00
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