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CrownedAkuma Posts: > 500


On 2014-03-09 16:17:56, Xajel wrote:
@Jubei1

I'm a bit of a hurry so I'll be quick,

first I want to be clear that I doesn't mean in anyway to make you wrong and prove my self as true, it's just a discussion and what I wrote is just my modest opinion.. no offence in any means...

I'll get it as points to make it fast:
1- It's true that designing a CPU takes years, but this applies mostly to x86.. it takes years to design a new architecture, but for ARM it's much faster, not in 6 months but in a little bit less than 2 years ( I remember I read somewhere it's 18 months, but I might forget how long exactly )

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6- I didn't say that Samsung will release 64bit, I said S5 will have multiple versions, including a fullHD display and maybe 2K display, when is that I don't know but I know that the 2K display has a 85% chance that it will be coupled with Exynos SoC... that 2K might be in S5 and might be in Note 4 I don't know either... but Samsung does have multiple versions of S5 and they're working on 2K screens for the mass but they're still not ready, 2K displays are very hard to manufacturer and costly also, they still need more time to optimise it and have plenty of them for the launch quantity...


This was the "I'm a bit of a hurry so I'll be quick" post? I would love to see the "I have plenty of time to respond you" version
By the way thanks for the insight
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Posted: 2014-03-09 17:17:54
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amirprog Posts: > 500

@CrownedAkuma


talking about 2k panels, what is interesting is that such displays should give manufacturers slightly more space to place other hardware components or to shorten phone bezel/thickness even more because those panels are said to be thinner, narrower and also lighter - less phone weight. jdi 5.4" 2k panel has almost the same diagonal of their 5.2" FHD panel (which i suppose is in Z2).
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Posted: 2014-03-09 19:26:39
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my ninja Posts: > 500

I will proudly say that I was one of the posters sure that Sammy would drop a 64bit chip in the S5 given the pace of the previous devices. boy howdy was I wrong, i forget that complacency is a disease.. either way, i had full expectation that there would have been an S5 with Exy-64bit + LPDDR4. that ship sailed there are still some clinging onto a 'metal' s5 but ill refrain from leaving my neck out there. QComm is getting off easy I will say that but it shouldnt be an issue going forward their only 'real' competition is Denver.K1 but theres the assumption of the SoC being power hungry with absolutely no information to back that up. still a dual core design is intriguing a midst 4x4 designs of other manufacturers.

Personally I would love to see a ultra high end Ubuntu/Denver device..

as for sony, they will more than not stay within their supply chain unless something better/cheaper comes along. finance rules the day for this one folks, sad to say. theres nothing wrong with QComm as far as performance/feature set in terms of incremental updates.

I have a STRONG inclination that most of these companies are waiting behind google to get off their ass and update the android kernel. who knows what we will see this year for google i/o... the Nexus 6 in november (depends on who the vendor is, if its LG the timing may be off, who knows) and Note 4 (aug/sept) may be a treat.. Sony doesnt seem like they are interested in being an also ran either so the Z3 (possibly the Z2 Ultra) may welcome the update as well.. if not it will be more of the same.. 3.4 again and again. fairly certain 3.11 is stable (3.12 should be stable too) who knows what the giant G has upstreamed for themselves either.
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Posted: 2014-03-10 08:41:55
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Ricky D Posts: > 500

I heard Google are moving away from Nexus devices in favour of GPE devices. Something evident by the flurry of GPE devices in the last 6 months and the complete lack of neither word nor rumour that a Nexus 10 2 will be forthcoming. I'd expect GPE to be given a solid shot for the next year then maybe we'll see a return of the Nexus if the GPE model doesn't work out.

I may be wrong.

Personally I prefer the GPE model. It allows the manufacturers to keep their device identity whilst giving the option of straight android to purists and developers. Also, it gives more options, instead of a single Nexus device there are several GPE devices to choose from in the same size category.
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Posted: 2014-03-10 09:27:59
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Away Posts: > 500

@amirprog

Qualcomm said they won't announce products so far in advance as they used to. So your theory is invalid.

Denver seems to be the only exciting chip this year. Everything points at Qualcomm being complacent, saved due to ARM failing with a15.
[ This Message was edited by: Away on 2014-03-10 10:31 ]

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Posted: 2014-03-10 10:38:12
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amirprog Posts: > 500

@Away
didn't know that. i just read someone in phonearena article comment section says that his friends are working at qualcomm and 64 bit will come later this year on fall, so who knows.
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Posted: 2014-03-10 12:32:41
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DexterMoser Posts: 443


On 2014-03-09 17:17:54, CrownedAkuma wrote:
[...] the "I have plenty of time to respond you" version

I'm afraid of that!
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2014-03-10 11:53 ]

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Posted: 2014-03-10 12:52:41
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Xajel Posts: > 500

@CrownedAkuma + @DexterMoser

No need to panic
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Posted: 2014-03-11 06:00:21
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calim Posts: 48

How is the Z3 likely to differ? Except for pure numbers like new CPU etc. Is there any piece of hardware the competition has that the Z2 does not but could be added? Like IR or such.
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Posted: 2014-03-13 10:43:27
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Away Posts: > 500

IR.
I think Sony will do more exciting things than just noise cancelling with built in DACs.
Better camera hardware AND software (it's a good thing they didn't make this sensor available for competitors lol).

Heart rate sensor, optional breathalyser test attachment, sensor to determine how well done an egg is, metal detector, built in air bag in case it drops, more exotic colour names (though that's more marketing).*

In the future, concave design with hovering ability so then it can be used as a glider and hover board alongside it's current uses as a float and surfboard.**

*A joke. Sony isn't Samsung***
**see above****

***such messages are now necessary as the iPA (and more recent SPA) audience can't follow what's going on
****see above



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Posted: 2014-03-13 11:29:23
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