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titus1 Posts: > 500


On 2011-05-02 04:52:43, false_morel wrote:

On 2011-04-30 15:40:58, doministry wrote:
Well for you stock Android UI is good, for others it's cr..p. I can't stand it.
For me and some others Arc's UI is the best existing. But you can't objectively say which is best or worse. This is bull..shit.


What I wanted to hint to is that SE introduced nothing special by this UI!
It resides somewhere in between the standard UI and the likes of Touchwiz and Sense UI..

It's not all bad of course.. Going with light customization may reduce the bugs and the lags as well as enable SE to give the respective updates in faster rates..
Still, it might not appeal to the majority out there..
However, I agree it could come also to individual tastes and priorities..

As for specs it's just blah blah blah ATM.
I've seen some comparative videos and in fact those differences are just nothing for the user.

Of course you always have to push when you make phones and we'll see the strategy in the future.


I'm aware of this new hype about the processor speeds.. Similar to that of the MP race..
However, this shares with the MP race only one thing: Given too much attention and shouldn't be the main standard to rank the smartphones upon.

However, unlike the MP count which is even a secondary factor in defining the quality of a cameraphone, and even has bad consequences the more it higher it goes, processor speeds don't!

Only concern is battery usage. But it is confirmed that with the right optimization the dual core is more efficient than a single core..
Other than that, as said, there may be no optimized software right now for such hardware, but it wont stay long like this!
In two years time, even the 1.2 dual cores would be outdated and not enough to run the software then!
Same concept as with laptops..

I could also revert the question - what special thing SGSII gives besides the gimmick.


Here we go:
- Super AMOLED Plus > LED-backlit LCD
- 16 GB > 320MB internal memory!! (Even if there is an 8GB SD card included with the arc)
- 1GB RAM > 512 MB!!!
- 1650 mAh > 1500 mAh
- 1080 HD > 720 HD (not important)
- Bluetooth 3.0 > 2.1 (not important)
- Mali-400MP > Adreno 205
- 1.2 GHz Dual Core Exynos > 1 GHz single core Scorpion
- Supports all media formats (video and audio) > doesn't support all formats (not sure but does the Arc support DivX/XviD?)

That's not to mention the Arc's issues and missing features that aren't there on the SGII:
- No Gyroscope, NFC (not important), USB OTG!, front facing camera (Come on! The SGII has 2MP one!!), bad positioning of the camera and headset jack, and despite the hype SE made about the camera sensor, the SGII is on par with it..

The Arc wins on the design, and that it has a camera shutter button althoug it's too small and replaced awkwardly at the very end of the phone!

Again, the Arc will be like 100 to 150€ cheaper, so it's all up for the user to decide.

It's iPhone ripoff and also as some stated above, the quality..... In Poland we joke "Sheissung" - it's a mix of Scheiss (sh.t in German) and Samsung.


I might get the SGII but just to test it! Not a fan of the design at all nor of the UI..
And unless Samsung stop copying and start to innovate they'll stay by my standards all cheap Korean products!
Same story with HTC and their crappy hardware..

I'll just stick to Nokia and SE prodcuts and nothing seem to change for me soon..

One can't deny though that Samsung are offering the top Android devices in the market right now..


No matter how you would compare Arc to other Android phone and vice versa...it still boils down to user preference.
I've seen satisfied Arc user here...let 'em be. For the discussion of "what's better" is already in the loop.
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Posted: 2011-05-02 07:35:17
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rickster2kuk Posts: > 500

The SGSII does look an amazing phone, certainly specs wise, but after seeing the Samsung UI customisation I was less than impressed, it looks horrible compared with HTC, SE even the stock interface looks better.

The camera is on par with the Arc, I checked the crops of the samples and they are very good, my only concern is that it sometimes seem to "blow" out the sky, more so than the Arc, but this is something that could be corrected in the firmware.
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Posted: 2011-05-02 10:51:41
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se_dude Posts: > 500

Btw, it does have a gyroscope. Just to let you know. And btw, the thing that the GSII cant beat the arc is in shutter speed. The Arc has a shutter speed of less than 1 sec in good light and 1-2 secs in low light.
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Posted: 2011-05-02 11:23:20
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rmk152 Posts: 125

Guys, i bought a SE Arc because i wanted it. If i wanted a SGSII i would have bought one.

I dont care if SGSII is better (possibly) as i wanted an ARC. Comming from a SE Satio/Vivaz i am more than happy.

SE Arc Rocks!!!
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Posted: 2011-05-02 13:56:56
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back2you Posts: 320

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffmBFGeEPDM
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Posted: 2011-05-02 16:05:40
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tranced Posts: > 500

Looks awesome
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Posted: 2011-05-02 16:07:05
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Toney_Ericsson Posts: > 500

Does anyone know if o2 pay and go phones are unlocked these days? Just I noticed the Arc is only £359.99 on the o2 website as appose to the £420 sim free on most websites. Thought I would mention it as that's quite a big difference.
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Posted: 2011-05-02 20:07:19
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Bonovox Posts: > 500

No,they are locked
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Posted: 2011-05-02 20:13:12
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HxH Posts: > 500

Anyone with LT15a from Rogers?
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Posted: 2011-05-03 09:48:04
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Uncle Bob Posts: 202

What's the difference between the LT15i and the LT15a?

I have a LT15i (I think) from O2.

btw. Very happy with it
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Posted: 2011-05-03 22:05:40
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