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On 2007-07-05 21:25:29, bickit wrote:
This is completely wierd. My E60 and my Friends E61 had issues with speed when installing into phone memory!! Especially the E60! It got slow! A firmware bug or just a problem with early types?
can't say, and I never updated my e61 in 10 months... But dogmann's right, not to mention that many apps MUST be installed in ph-memory to work properly! Maybe your friends tried firstversions of apps that weren't quite alright yet?
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Posted: 2007-07-05 21:31:36
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Now, i got ALL the software on my friends E61, apart from the standard software (f-secure virus and office suite, etc) there as follows: Adobe pdf, LCG jukebox, fring, mig33 beta, mxit, mobile weather, ownskin animator, handyzip, handy keylock, wifi finder, wireless keyboard app and about 700mb of music on the card. It has 38mb internal memory left. What could be wrong? It only has two or 3 apps running at the same time and startup takes 1.5 mins!!
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Posted: 2007-07-05 21:38:30
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...by "startup"... What do you mean? Turning it on? Or turning on an app?
My e61 can take a minute to turn on with a nearly full 2gb-card, but once it's on it's really fast! (my k750, btw, with a 512 mb-card took nearly as long to turn on, but was much slower once running!).
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Posted: 2007-07-05 21:56:10
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Thats switching the phone on. It used to be 40secs, when it just had music only. Btw it has 8 themes. 3 in phone memory, the rest on the card. I think ill have it flashed, though my friend wount be pleased. I thnk its the software, My E60 had the same issue. Now, seeing as people are pointing in the direction of the E61, what would be the name of the firmware(0S) upgrade that made the E61s Mp3 player very loud?
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Posted: 2007-07-05 22:22:58
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On 2007-07-05 22:22:58, bickit wrote:
Thats switching the phone on. It used to be 40secs, when it just had music only. Btw it has 8 themes. 3 in phone memory, the rest on the card. I think ill have it flashed, though my friend wount be pleased. I thnk its the software, My E60 had the same issue. Now, seeing as people are pointing in the direction of the E61, what would be the name of the firmware(0S) upgrade that made the E61s Mp3 player very loud?
...ooops, no idea - I came across warnings not to update cause the volume would be reduced in line with eu-regulations re. Noise-limits
i should mention I bought my e61 from vodafone Ireland who release phones much later than uk and europe, but often seem more sorted out/less buggy! i haven't updated a fw once! (6680, k750, w810, n91 etc etc...)
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Posted: 2007-07-05 23:07:31
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@bickit
The most obvious cause is as i suggested earlier is the totally unnecessary and resource sapping Anti-virus software it is totally pointless and uses large amounts of both Ram and processing power. Get rid of it and see if it makes a difference i am pretty sure this is the main culprit but running lots of apps that are constantly running is always going to effect the performance of your device.
I have Fring but not running constantly and for Mobile Weather i run manual updates when needed, don't really understand why you would need mig33 and Fring although i am now running Windows Live but again just when i need it is not just left running.
My E61 boots in 37 seconds i have 15 apps all installed to the phones memory, 4 themes in the phones memory, 1 ring tone and 2 message alerts in phone memory. I have 2gb card with Music , Pictures, Video's, and Documents with 549mb free on the card and 42.3mb free phone memory.
I am running V 3.0633.09.04 and have no issues with volume 70% is very loud and @47 my hearing is not as good as it was when i was younger.
To put it simply the combination of the apps you have installed and how you are running them is what is causing the delays you are experiencing and many of the apps seem to be duplicates. I would advise looking at what you really need to run and use and just install the essential apps the WiFi finder for instance is also a resource hungry app especially if left running always and especially on boot up and IMO a total waste and unnecessary.
These mobile devices have limited resources and i notice no mention of a good Task Manager which IMO is an essential app to have a use to help improve your devices performance.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-07-05 23:50 ]
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Posted: 2007-07-06 00:10:05
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@bickit
Dunno why... There's a little performance difference when using the in built flash mem instead of the ext mem card. But i wont fill up the int mem. There's always some 15 odd MBs free.
The E61 too has acute low RAM issue when an activ user uses it. I'v got frnds with E62 & E61i. They complaint of low RAM n says they r forced to restart d fon every now n den.
I suggest u wait 4 d E61i's successor...
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Posted: 2007-07-06 03:48:00
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Here's my list of installed apps n games in my Nok E50
APPS:
Opera mobile
X-plore
Mobi OfficeSuite 4
Advanced Device Locks
Handy Clock
Handy Expense
Handy Taskman
IM+
cCalc
SmartMovie
Profi Mail
Photo Rite
S60 spot on
Auto Lock
GMail app
Live PVR
Wellness diary
Screen shot 2
Sym Torrent
WiPresenter
JBenchmark
Reuters
Contacts Transfer
Easy Jack
GAMES:
Prince of Persia 3
Real football 2007
I hate Guns
Sky Force Reloaded
K rally
Super Miners
Splinter Cell 4
Freddie Flintoff Cricket
Midnight Pool 3D
Massive Snowboarding 3D
BIA 3D
Fight Night 3D
ProGolf 2007 3D
BomberMan
Sensible Sudoku
Tennis Open 2007
Platinum Solitaire
Heart
Pinball Reactor
I'v got 8 themes installed in my phone mem too...
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Posted: 2007-07-06 06:46:00
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@ali-baba,
what are your friends doing?
i use my e61 heavily (for 1, I have no proper internet connection where I live, so it's my "laptop", really)...I never had to restart it?
What applications are left running unnecessarily?
i often have to edit large e-mail attachments on the go, checking websites simultaneously, istening to music at the same time, etc etc...
i'm not saying the e-series has the best ram ever, but ...i must be doing something wrong
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Posted: 2007-07-06 07:37:13
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NB: this is my friends E61, nt mine. Havent bought it yet. Mig33 is a chatting application, and its necessary to keep it on, as our friends are in remote areas. Im going to remove the antivirus and see what happens. Otherwise, didnt the E61i have its RAM issues sorted? And, i would like to have the E61i by october. Its a good alternative to the ultra buggy P990 and, ive got no idea when the successor is being released. Compared to the E65, the E61i seems to have a similar spec. I have to ask, has anyone had a virus detected in the phone? ALL my smartphones had never detected one, which leaves me wondering, why is it installed?
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Posted: 2007-07-06 08:15:27
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