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Id be interested to know why SE are reluctant to venture into VGA video.
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Posted: 2008-06-17 22:04:03
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JuanPablo can't. He just ripped the text off and posted it without source.
Man, why does Esato not have an ignore list for such lame people.
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Posted: 2008-06-17 22:04:44
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On 2008-06-17 18:37:23, mr_lou wrote:
On 2008-06-17 18:30:44, Prom1 wrote:
I need a smartphone though, so I'll be looking at the BB Bold & Nokia E71.
I have to ask, what makes you need a smartphone? What can a smartphone do that the C905 can't?
Calendar!
* I'm limited in the amount of text I can enter. I cannot seperate the Title from the actual notes of an Event/Appointment/Meeting. Heck I cannot even seperate those like I did above ^ . Their all appointments in the SE system (non smartphone).
* When I enter the beginning & end times on another platform (BB) I get a QUICK total time just below to see how long that appointment is. My previous job this was CRITICAL! I would be scheduled for 8hrs a day and by the 4th hr it was requested that I work OT up to 13hrs max because of current laws. The type of position I had, by law, only allowed for 60hrs/wk. I didn't want to work past that and NOT get paid - they would NOT shift it over to the next week because all employees hours are DOUBLE checked in 2 systems - then billed, so if it didn't match you'd be under the management gun so to speak. I would commonly in that 2.5yrs time work around 55-60hrs for 3wk/mth. Plus school meetings for my kids, volunteering for trips.
* you can see how above would look cluttered on the
platform phones! I've used the T39, z500/z600/z520, K750, K790a, K850i and NONE have been improved in this field, NONE! Only the color. Its good but its OLD and when
improved the messaging I was appalled that everyone wanted that & NOT include for Calendar to be improved.
Curious about the settings on the C905 regarding WiFi. Does it support encryptions? Does it allow a specific IP & DNS Gateway to be entered by end users? Does it allow for public, fee-based accessed points to be connected & used?! Does it support VoIP on J2ME apps or via UMA by supporting networks?!
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Posted: 2008-06-17 22:08:32
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This phone now i seen proper pics of it looks so cool. Very nice design reminds me of another phone i cant think of. 8.1 mega pixels is a bit much though 5 or 6 is enough for me 8 mega pixels takes up too much memory. Wont buy it till its been out a while though. Does it have VGA recording yet.
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Posted: 2008-06-17 22:09:00
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On 2008-06-17 20:28:45, Hiron wrote:
Could someone who read my post forward this question (sounds more like a demand) to SE, please? Maybe it can be asked in tomorrow event. . .
Why SE only put QVGA video recording in C905 instead of VGA? I hav read the whitepaper.
As we all know, Nokia, LG and Samsung hav done that several years ago (example N82 and N95.) nokia even prepared something bigger like
720x480@30fps in their next phone!
SE could do VGA easily (already decent sensor), and I don't know the reason SE struggling at QVGA. . .
If that's because the problem of big video size, ow c'mon. . . They already packaged 2 GB M2! And to make sure, SE can add the option to record video at VGA and QVGA, and maybe adding customizable video bitrate features to this CyberShot Flagship C905!
I heard some members in esato complains about this. 2 peoples I read even decided to buy N95 for this silly reason. . .
And we all have read many comparison review (mobile-review, gsmarena, etc) about K850i vs N95. . . Every reviewers have a critics that QVGA is a let down to K850i, comparing to Nokia.
Why SE repeat this mistakes again in C905? I don't want the reviewers throw this critics again to point the stupid weakness of C905!
And how a non-CyberShot branded X1 Xperia could do VGA rec, while C905 "High-End" "CyberShot" "Flagship" that has a PRICE tag almost 590 euro could only do QVGA rec. . .
Many people DISAPPOINTED :crying:
And I don't know why SE doesn't make C905 as PERFECT as possible, like adding following decent features, that could rises C905's selling point:
- SmileShutter (firmware)
- Dedicated play button
- Manual Focus and Saturation (firmware)
- Stereo Speakers with Neodymium Magnet Drivers
- Flash Lite 3 Support (firmware)
- TouchScreen to do Touch-Focus as introduced in G900
- Bluetooth 2.1 support
- HSUPA support
- Wi-Fi 802.11n support (currently only b and g)
- An option to enable or at least adjusting Noise Reduction Levels, since every people have different taste of matter to prefer "lot noise but high detail" or "low noise at the expenses of reduced details" (firmware)
- CCD Sensors with Liquid Lens technology from Vario-Tessar. (just googling about this liquid technology, reduced lens distortion, lower power usage, ability to auto-focus and optical zoom WITHOUT WASTING SPACES, the phone will NOT be thicker if you implement optical zoom)
- MicroSD Support, why SE abandoned it? Maybe they want to raising M2 selling? Politics. . .
- Torch Features like K850i has
- A jog scrolling key like BeiBei has
- Using 2.6" VGA 16.7M OLED display. Samsung has already using OLED display in their mobile phone (just look at wikipedia about OLED display. Lower power usage (maintain battery life), better angle, contrast and response time compared to LCD. And it's much cheaper than LCD)
I'm sorry if I asking (probably dreaming too much =p)
Back to my point of this post, could someone DEMANDING SE to put VGA rec, if you don't mind? Just forward this arguments to the high staff of SE. Or maybe SE's president
Many people hav asking VGA rec since K850i bad era. . . Why SE doesn't take a lessons from K850i fallen?
Please show them C905 discussion thread in esato, and look at many people complaining QVGA rec, all with pesimism. Maybe we should start a petition?
SE still have 5 months to change this easily before released, like what SE do in X1 Xperia (increasing RAM.)
I hope some high staff from SE read my posts.
Thanks For Your Attention, I'm sorry if I say something wrong. Everybody makes a mistakes
Damn kid (I mean that figuratively)!
For just 12 posts you slinging STONES!
However you are VERY correct!
is only giving us satisfying devices, not revolutionary devices.
* - CCD Sensors with Liquid Lens technology from Vario-Tessar. (just googling about this liquid technology, reduced lens distortion, lower power usage, ability to auto-focus and optical zoom WITHOUT WASTING SPACES, the phone will NOT be thicker if you implement optical zoom) .
I've been screaming for this in phones by end of this year, considering Seiko is in MAJOR production now for units to be sourced out! Wonder if Nokia will incorporate this for a future 8MP/10MP camera to show up others, or will Samsung muscle everyone else with this?!
OLED, I'm shocked
wasnt' the first in this real. Maybe its the speed for video & contrast that is a concern.
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Posted: 2008-06-17 22:21:13
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This may be considered a very insignificant characteristic of the phone....but I'll ask about it anyway: does the back of the device have that rubbery feeling the k790/k800 had? That was awesome because it helped me grip the phone.
[ This Message was edited by: TJMonkey15 on 2008-06-17 21:53 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-17 22:34:18
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god what i hate people who nag about new phones who they even have try.
this is a lovely phone. who bloody cares if it record in vga or qvga, etc, etc. it dosent mather, the video quality isnt that good anyway. i have not seen ONE cell pphone who have good video recording, (not even Viewty, it looks like shit compared to a real hand cam)
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-06-17 21:40 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-17 22:38:12
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On 2008-06-17 22:21:13, Prom1 wrote:
OLED, I'm shocked
wasn't the first in this real. Maybe its the speed for video & contrast that is a concern.
you're shocked? really? is this like the only thing left that they didnt improve in their phones? there are many other important things to be done before using OLED screens in their phones, think 3.5mm jacks, stereo speakers, tv-out, all are defaults in phones from nokia or samsung! shame....
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Posted: 2008-06-17 22:39:22
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I just hope by the time the final version of this phone they will have VGA recording. It PROBABLY has the hardware to back it up but i guess with a firmware update or something it could be activated. Or maybe at the moment there having trouble recording VGA so they put for now QVGA on the whitepaper. I dont know y tho, cuz like samsung, and nokia phones could do it already.
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Posted: 2008-06-17 22:43:41
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To those who want everything under the sun in the C905, this would not be possible because the price would be too high if it had every single feature. It has an 8.1 mega pixel camera which is its main selling point so it would not be a good idea to release lots of new features on one phone.
Though I agree it should have an OLED display.
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Posted: 2008-06-17 22:46:21
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