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XPHCTOC Posts: 246

Why android 1.6 and not 2.0?
Just read this article: http://androidandme.com/2009/[....]roid-2-0-we-deserve-an-answer/
and particularly this phrase: "I really hope I’m wrong on this, but it would appear Verizon and Motorola have some kind of exclusive deal with Google for Android 2.0."
That's exactly what I was thinking yesterday. Don't blame SE for everything!
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Posted: 2009-11-04 20:59:16
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sealover94 Posts: > 500


On 2009-11-04 20:59:16, XPHCTOC wrote:
Why android 1.6 and not 2.0?
Just read this article: http://androidandme.com/2009/[....]roid-2-0-we-deserve-an-answer/
and particularly this phrase: "I really hope I’m wrong on this, but it would appear Verizon and Motorola have some kind of exclusive deal with Google for Android 2.0."
That's exactly what I was thinking yesterday. Don't blame SE for everything!


and blame who ?? Moto and verizon who are smart enough to have this deal ???
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Posted: 2009-11-04 21:00:33
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ron.jeremy Posts: 131

Can someone please ban sealover94 right now!?!
I for one will noe ever contribute if this J/O is around in here, i shit you not.

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Posted: 2009-11-04 21:20:16
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anders260 Posts: 197

Can't you just ignore him, it's ok to have other opinions and to be critical but to repeat everything again and again is quite irritating.
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Posted: 2009-11-04 21:25:43
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koto Posts: > 500

Besides batery life I also wander how good texting will be (writting long mails, editing word documents, etc.).
I don't know why sealover iritates you so much. I have nothing against his posts. Let the man speaks freely. It does not affect the beauty of X10 if one really like it.
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Posted: 2009-11-04 22:15:58
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badassmam Posts: > 500

Don't worry about Android 2.0, the X10 UI is very nice but its stupidly slow regardless of the 1Ghz processor so keep working at it . The phone will speed up by release, Android 1.6 is good so chill. Give them some credit for what they have done on top of Android. The protos on 'basic' Android were very quick so it shows how demanding the UI is. No multi-touch is disappointing though.
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Posted: 2009-11-05 00:34:20
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Caspa Posts: > 500


On 2009-11-04 20:18:03, ron.jeremy wrote:
What are the differences from 1.6 (donut) to 2.0 (Eclair)?
We have the multitask, and bluethooth file transfer, what are other things, anyone know?


• The whole system feels much faster, especially the browser. Apparently it renders about as fast as the 3GS's, though part of that could be down to the hardware

With Snapdragon and looking at the videos this seems to be what the X10 is doing with 1.6 speed wise...

• The browser also gets double-tap-to-zoom (some current ROMs already come with this)

Surely the X10 will have this if as it says in brackets, "some current ROMs already come with this...

• Facebook friends are integrated right into the contacts system

This is something that SE's Timescape seems to deal with (at least to some degree), not having it built into Android isnt neccessary as SE have it built in via their proprietry application...

• Voice control has been scattered through the whole system, and even gets its own dedicated dashboard

This sounds like something 2.0 does that the X10 wont have on release... How useful this is would be my comment though, cant say i'm a massive fan of voice control... Suppose we have to ask what the iPhone users think of the voice control they have with 3.0?

• There's an upgraded version of Google Maps, with layer support

Would be very nice to have this with Snapdragon, should run fast and smooth... So a definately WANT as it were...

• Native MS Exchange support

SE seem to have this sorted themselves, and from the BGR review of the DROID the native implementation doesnt seem all that great at the moment...

• A unified email inbox, for joining multiple accounts

This sounds like a useful feature for some... Personally it isnt as I have a work MS Exchange account and a couple of personal Gmail accounts. Android deals with Gmail in a specific native application so it isnt part of this unified inbox (as far as I am aware from what has been said on BGR)...

• A YouTube homescreen widget, which enables two-click uploads

With SE's 8.1MP camera taking decent videos (we hope), this is a definate WANT I would say (even though I have never uploaded a video to YouTube myself!)...

• A "Car Home" app offers larger shortcuts for functions you might need while driving, as well as easy access to voice control

Sounds like a useful feature, so a definate WANT... But my car has built in SatNav so again I aint bothered at all...

From the list above it doesnt sound like we are missing out on much, but closer inspection at http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.0-highlights.html (see below) does make it sound a lot better and therefore an upgrade is in itself a definate MUST for SE...

Contacts and accounts

* Multiple accounts can be added to a device for email and contact synchronization, including Exchange accounts. (Handset manufacturers can choose whether to include Exchange support in their devices.)
* Developers can create sync adapters that provide synchronization with additional data sources.
* Quick Contact for Android provides instant access to a contact's information and communication modes. For example, a user can tap a contact photo and select to call, SMS, or email the person. Other applications such as Email, Messaging, and Calendar can also reveal the Quick Contact widget when you touch a contact photo or status icon.

Email

* Exchange support.
* Combined inbox to browse email from multiple accounts in one page.

Messaging

* Search functionality for all saved SMS and MMS messages.
* Auto delete the oldest messages in a conversation when a defined limit is reached.

Camera

* Built-in flash support
* Digital zoom
* Scene mode
* White balance
* Color effect
* Macro focus

Android virtual keyboard

* An improved keyboard layout to makes it easier to hit the correct characters and improve typing speed.
* The framework's multi-touch support ensures that key presses aren't missed while typing rapidly with two fingers.
* A smarter dictionary learns from word usage and automatically includes contact names as suggestions.

Browser

* Refreshed UI with actionable browser URL bar enables users to directly tap the address bar for instant searches and navigation.
* Bookmarks with web page thumbnails.
* Support for double-tap zoom.
* Support for HTML5:
o Database API support, for client-side databases using SQL.
o Application cache support, for offline applications.
o Geolocation API support, to provide location information about the device.
o tag support in fullscreen mode.

Calendar

* Agenda view provides infinite scrolling.
* Events indicate the attending status for each invitee.
* Invite new guests to events.

New Platform Technologies
Media Framework

Revamped graphics architecture for improved performance that enables better hardware acceleration.
Bluetooth

* Bluetooth 2.1
* New BT profiles: Object Push Profile (OPP) and Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)

New Framework APIs

Android 2.0 includes several new developer APIs. For an overview of new APIs, see the Android 2.0 version notes.

For a complete report of all API changes, see the API Differences Report.

What does everyone else think as I am a newbie when it comes to Android, but have been generally impressed by a colleagues HTC Hero...

EDIT: And as Badassman has pointed out, no multi-touch is a dissappointment - see comments relating to the Keyboard and typing in the overview provided by Google - this would be my main worry!

Also, apologies for the long post!
[ This Message was edited by: Caspa on 2009-11-04 23:43 ]

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Posted: 2009-11-05 00:38:08
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my ninja Posts: > 500



russia: http://community.livejournal.com/sonyericsson/26034.html#cutid1

color seems fine, the contrast however ... my word thats bad.

still want that compass, and can see no reason why its NOT available. HOWEVER tmob 3g is super awesome!
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2009-11-04 23:42 ]

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Posted: 2009-11-05 00:40:54
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bider Posts: 269

Few photos that you haven't seen yet

http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0004gcg7
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0003yd2g
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/00042wcs
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0003t3q3
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0003wqwg

The last one is the best. You can clearly see that white is glossy and black is rubber. I think I'd go for the black one
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Posted: 2009-11-05 00:44:44
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my ninja Posts: > 500

my post above was late, sorry about that, bider thanks for the new photos, they are HUGE!

pz mates.

ps, seal i feel your angst but everyone sees what your seeing, however they are going to wait for more final production units before you judge the screen. i would think that you would be lenient seeing the state of the software as well.
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2009-11-04 23:54 ]

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