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miguel82 Posts: 414

Im very disapointed with all this.
It seems that SE work so hard this last 3 or 4months ... to give us UNHACKABLE firmware! They have read all these foruns for sure and did nothing about ppl issues with the phone, but instead, what they did was prevent people from using Nokia software on their phones!
All the issues seems to still there ... and all the missing things werent added. And their "conversations nicely integrated on messaging to inspire more with your friends" makes me laugh...who they are trying to fool by moving one existing application to the messages folder?
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Posted: 2010-03-07 12:26:34
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jackau Posts: 35


On 2010-03-07 12:26:34, miguel82 wrote:
Im very disapointed with all this.
It seems that SE work so hard this last 3 or 4months ... to give us UNHACKABLE firmware! They have read all these foruns for sure and did nothing about ppl issues with the phone, but instead, what they did was prevent people from using Nokia software on their phones!
All the issues seems to still there ... and all the missing things werent added. And their "conversations nicely integrated on messaging to inspire more with your friends" makes me laugh...who they are trying to fool by moving one existing application to the messages folder?


Well, if SE guys really read our posts they better be aware we know Symbian is now OPEN SOURCE, which means any one can develop it and on paper we have the rights to to use NOkia software developed for open source symbian, therefore the hack is very much legal with symbian going open source.

SE should know better, this game is not their PS3 or PSP, it is more like computer hardware / OS market. SE is in no position to launch something like samsung nor they are like Nokia, they need Fans like us to survive and if they make us less happy, they risk loosing more at the smartphone market, the only way up is to best iphone and level with nokia, the way to go is listen to what users want, there are no better marketers than your customers showing off your phone and make others wanna get one, that was part of the success factor of Iphones.

This is the age of smart phone, with hardware side of things equal, the OS is the key to victory.

Lets hope SE did Listen and keep up with other major symbian developers, since it is open source now, every body's bag of tricks must be revealed for others to study, it should be fair game!


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Posted: 2010-03-07 13:21:26
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jackau Posts: 35


On 2010-03-07 11:11:27, burmistrz wrote:

On 2010-03-07 10:49:51, jackau wrote:
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Like a Q&A:

Does HelloOX2.03 work with R2AK006?

No, HelloOX2.03 would only work with R1CA037, So if you want to hack the phone and install Nokia aps, Don't upgrade until HelloOX updates.


I would like to confirm the following:

Does apps installed Under hacked R1CA037 still works AFTER UPgrade to R2AK006?

If yes, under what condition, can those apps still work with HelloOX turned off?



If you had HelloOX2 installed before upgrade, it should work after that, too.
Just donīt forget to keep yours settings (an option in updater).
After that, everything works like before upgrading. Hacking still possible.

Apps need HelloOX2 for install only. Once there, no need any.


Thanks for the tip, but i need more varification

Do you need to swtich off HelloOX hack or even unhack before update?
Or it can have all those functions turned on during update?

for those who has used Vivaz home screen mod (not me):
Does the hack applied BEFORE upgrade work after upgrade?

I hope fellow Satio comrades can put down more Facts in the post for the benefit of others.
Therefore if you can come up with a good Q&A, post it.


Thank you

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Posted: 2010-03-07 13:30:36
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PawCat Posts: 40


On 2010-02-26 19:38:57, harvy2001 wrote:

i find it hard for people to say my satio is workig 100% fine, the bugs in the phone have been well documented,

yes day to day use is fine but you know thier are many things missing on this phone its not quite the final product it should be, its a real shame though because this is a killer phone!

im happy with my phone but even i keep checking everyday for the update - i want the small bugs fixed for good!

i only say this as ive used a few nokia phones and it feels a little crap to see the ui all perfect on thier phones!


+1 yes i agree
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Posted: 2010-03-07 13:50:09
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basithz Posts: 253

i think SE have released a beta update for a few regions and networks as they want to get feedback and they will then probably release the main update next week to most people (if that is possible some how; could be a new strategy by them)
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Posted: 2010-03-07 13:51:56
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PawCat Posts: 40


On 2010-03-07 12:26:34, miguel82 wrote:
Im very disapointed with all this.
It seems that SE work so hard this last 3 or 4months ... to give us UNHACKABLE firmware! They have read all these foruns for sure and did nothing about ppl issues with the phone, but instead, what they did was prevent people from using Nokia software on their phones!
All the issues seems to still there ... and all the missing things werent added. And their "conversations nicely integrated on messaging to inspire more with your friends" makes me laugh...who they are trying to fool by moving one existing application to the messages folder?


So true. I had an email from SE saying they where changing the dictionary so it would be editable and would fix the problem with words being changed each time you added a , or ; or ' etc etc. Looks like they did not bother. Why are SE so intent on ignoring our requests for simple yet important fixes and spending months adding very little yet taking away more.
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Posted: 2010-03-07 13:56:02
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mr versatile Posts: 120

Hi guys i know there were going to be some dissappointment not surprise but not satisfied after waiting for so long this pieace of crap of a software was not worth it so it just make me wonder now is there really going to be updates to rectify our issues ........SO FOR ALL OF YOU WHO HAD DONE THE UPGRADE PLEASE LET US KNOW IF TO STAND DOWN FROM THE UPGRADING AND HACK OUR PHONES AND BE HAPPY BECAUSE I AM NOT GOING TO UPGRADE JUST FOR WVGA , FACEBOOK AND YOUTUBE what a big joke these was suppose to be working in the first place

These Questions @larry 68 and others who hacked their phones is it the signed version of hello0x2 to use:
powermp3 would work afer hacking
call recorder would that also worked
and about the vivaz homescreen and wallpaper could you briefly explain how to go about it
if i get these thing going i dont care about this present updates its just another desaster
and the light senser it seems to be a big issue in the vivaz homescreen and not with satio by it self hmmmm

I am personal seeing the vivaz going to a big failure as well because the satio is a better phone than the vivaz
Sony done made a mess using nokia software so what the big deal for us to use nokia apps if so well give apps for us to be happy with hacking will always dominate
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Posted: 2010-03-07 13:57:40
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basithz Posts: 253

if you hack your phone before the update you will still be able to use the hellox as when you get the update screen saying two options one saying rest the phone one saying keep the setting (or something like that) chose the keep setting one then you will be able to install the unsigned apps.

so basically hack the phone then update it select the option to keep setting and then you can still install apps that are unsigned.
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Posted: 2010-03-07 14:06:23
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bagatov Posts: 12

I'm very dissatisfied with the new update since I had to do a hard reset because of the "reboot-bug" - even though I got all of my contacts, pics and stuff back I lost both the hello0x2 hack and vivaz homescreen.
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Posted: 2010-03-07 14:30:24
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Raafat Posts: 150

No update for me yet. Could it be that I branded it to the MENA region??
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Posted: 2010-03-07 14:30:57
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