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On 2021-11-19 18:29:30, Hawk12 wrote:
I have seen this "micro sd " thing.
On phones of other brands too.
Is it done on purpose?
Yes it is done on purpose
Sony limits it at DDR50 mode (50MB/s bus speed). UHS-I standard contains two mode: DDR50 and SDR104 (104MB/s). You can only include support for DDR50 mode bare minimum but still passed as UHS-I compatible.
On other brands such as Samsung, SDR104 is the norm (until they removed the microSD capability
).
A bit more OT: There are plenty of UHS-I microSD cards advertises their speed greater than SDR104 (>104MB/s). Thats because they use unofficial DDR208 mode (208MB/s). But thats useless because no Android phone supports it. So dont fall to the microSD trap
Also UHS-I is the unofficial technical limit on Android phones, dont expect to see UHS-II support in the future (they can make it but no one have any interests doing so
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Posted: 2021-11-19 18:59:58
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Why they do it?
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Posted: 2021-11-19 19:26:17
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On 2021-11-19 18:59:58, spektykles wrote:
On 2021-11-19 18:29:30, Hawk12 wrote:
I have seen this "micro sd " thing.
On phones of other brands too.
Is it done on purpose?
Yes it is done on purpose
Sony limits it at DDR50 mode (50MB/s bus speed). UHS-I standard contains two mode: DDR50 and SDR104 (104MB/s). You can only include support for DDR50 mode bare minimum but still passed as UHS-I compatible.
On other brands such as Samsung, SDR104 is the norm (until they removed the microSD capability
).
A bit more OT: There are plenty of UHS-I microSD cards advertises their speed greater than SDR104 (>104MB/s). Thats because they use unofficial DDR208 mode (208MB/s). But thats useless because no Android phone supports it. So dont fall to the microSD trap
Also UHS-I is the unofficial technical limit on Android phones, dont expect to see UHS-II support in the future (they can make it but no one have any interests doing so
)
Thanks for the value added info! BTW my PC companion super seldom able to successfully read my micro SD card when plugged into my PC, even when I set my phone to USB connection. Do you guys encounter the same too? (Applies to many xperia mobiles ...
)
Yay another first for Sony! 4k LTPO display! ~ saves battery life much! But as for the processor.....
[ This Message was edited by: tai020381 on 2021-11-19 18:36 ]
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Posted: 2021-11-19 19:33:55
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On 2021-11-19 19:33:55, tai020381 wrote:
Thanks for the value added info! BTW my PC companion super seldom able to successfully read my micro SD card when plugged into my PC, even when I set my phone to USB connection. Do you guys encounter the same too? (Applies to many xperia mobiles ...
)
Yay another first for Sony! 4k LTPO display! ~ saves battery life much! But as for the processor.....
[ This Message was edited by: tai020381 on 2021-11-19 18:36 ]
Check if the microSD on your phone is set to "Adoptable Storage" mode. If yes then you need to migrate all your data off the card and re-format it. Android has this thing that you can either merge the microSD as "internal storage" or treat it as external/dedicated one.
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Posted: 2021-11-19 20:57:50
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Samsung oled can go as low as 10Hz, while Sharp oled goes 1Hz.
But obviously Sharp has higher cost due lower volume produced.
Is this new panel 10bit native? I know sony does the 8+2 because native 10bit would use even more power.
I am surprised people are not mad because Pro-i does not have the
1080@960fps..[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2021-11-19 21:06 ]
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Posted: 2021-11-19 21:58:46
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On 2021-11-19 21:58:46, Hawk12 wrote:
Samsung oled can go as low as 10Hz, while Sharp oled goes 1Hz.
But obviously Sharp has higher cost due lower volume produced.
Is this new panel 10bit native? I know sony does the 8+2 because native 10bit would use even more power.
I am surprised people are not mad because Pro-i does not have the
1080@960fps..
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2021-11-19 21:06 ]
I dont have the details right now and the spec could changing anytime. But I think it will be true 10 bit because new panel. Sony loves to "recycle" old panel from the first gen "1" to Pro-I
960fps slowmo is a niche feature, but I think Sony will bring it back (quietly)
[ This Message was edited by: spektykles on 2021-11-19 21:10 ]
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Posted: 2021-11-19 22:07:26
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There is this website, they have many info about oled, even the codes of the panels.
So you can see if panel is rigid or flexible oled.
This website says mark 1 and mark 2 do not use same screen.
And mark 3 would be different too.
But the article of mark 3 was set a password, so not I cant read.
Here, it shows code of some phones. I think they find by doing teardown.
https://nokian1865.wordpress.[....]/10/07/xperia-5-ii-oled-panel/[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2021-11-19 21:18 ]
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Posted: 2021-11-19 22:10:05
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On 2021-11-19 22:10:05, Hawk12 wrote:
There is this website, they have many info about oled, even the codes of the panels.
So you can see if panel is rigid or flexible oled.
This website says mark 1 and mark 2 do not use same screen.
And mark 3 would be different too.
But the article of mark 3 was set a password, so not I cant read.
Here, it shows code of some phones. I think they find by doing teardown.
https://nokian1865.wordpress.[....]/10/07/xperia-5-ii-oled-panel/
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2021-11-19 21:18 ]
Im fully aware about that
Yes each gen having different panel model but they use the same base OLED type. They only changing some stuffs like display driver IC, screen Hz,...and therefore new model number
For the 1III, panel model is AMB650YL01
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Posted: 2021-11-19 22:28:17
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Samsung and Apple use M panels. The chinese use E panels.
So, M or E here ?
I also cant find price of BoM anywhere. Sony has 1.000.000.000.000.000.000 secrets looks like. Everything is super top secret.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2021-11-19 21:40 ]
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Posted: 2021-11-19 22:36:16
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On 2021-11-19 22:36:16, Hawk12 wrote:
Samsung and Apple use M panels. The chinese use E panels.
So, M or E here ?
I also cant find price of BoM anywhere. Sony has 1.000.000.000.000.000.000 secrets looks like. Everything is super top secret.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2021-11-19 21:40 ]
I cant quite give you the answer but something different, sit between E2 and E3
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Posted: 2021-11-19 23:06:41
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