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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@axxxr

Well the current thinking seems ot be that it could have been a small independent cell acting of its own violation. This is certainly very plausible and does not bode well for the interception of future atatcks I have to say.
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Posted: 2005-07-09 15:12:23
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upper Posts: > 500

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On 2005-07-09 14:21:26, Sammy_boy wrote:
All I know is that the Middle East has been a problem for the last 2,000 years at least, they were problems in that area in Biblical times, there were the crusades in that area in the 11/12th etc. centuries, and the current troubles.

And I wondered how long before the consipiracy theories started, we've already gone one person with something so 'secret' he can't post it - let me guess, it's the British secret service/CIA/the French?

I agree with scotsboy, this has gone a bit too far off topic, it is getting too political!

And degenerating into a flame war - best stop now, eh, before it gets locked?

hehehe are you trying to read my mind are you? well great job in doing that. as you guys no as after the 9/11 bush and blair were desperately trying to bring in the id cards for the NEW WORLD ORDER but fortunately they were unsuccessful, people thought it will invade there civil liberty and that the government will play big brother on the people of GB. so people what is the best way to make people crave for the id cards? for them to want the id cards? you no last week or 2 60% or more of british people rejected the idea of id cards that went up sharply 4 yrs later after the 9/11. so the best way for the british people to beg the government to bring in the id cards is to make another terorist attack like the 9/11 style in london. now i am sure that the people rejected the id cards before 7/7/05 will now fully want the id cards to be brought into place, but if they are smart they will no what bush or blair is upto.

lol i think i am going to get fried for this lol

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Posted: 2005-07-09 18:37:05
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peeta Posts: 147

Charles Clark has said himself that he doesn't believe that i.d. cards would have prevented the attacks on thursday (which suprised me cos i was waiting for them to make the opposite statement...call me skeptical, cynical whatever)
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Posted: 2005-07-09 18:50:52
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On 2005-07-09 18:50:52, peeta wrote:
Charles Clark has said himself that he doesn't believe that i.d. cards would have prevented the attacks on thursday (which suprised me cos i was waiting for them to make the opposite statement...call me skeptical, cynical whatever)

yes i no, but its not about him its about the pm blair he believes it will work, lets pray that the skull and bone poeple will fail in there devil ideas. remember not everyone works for the government no's whats happening around them. tell me who wants to be spied on where ever they go?

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Posted: 2005-07-09 18:55:15
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PeterKay Posts: > 500

Big question for me is why is ISLAM the first to be blamed at all times when any terrorist/violent act occurs in the world today??

This is my opinion: ISLAM which means PEACE is officially the fastest growing religion in the world today, more non-muslims converted to ISLAM after 9/11 in America alone. "WHY" you may ask, well a few friends of mine in America told me that after 9/11 the public in America wanted to know more about this religion ISLAM that has been on the news daily, so they all went to the librarys and book stores and all started purchasing the ISLAMIC bible named the HOLY QURAN to find out exactly what is mentioned by GOD almighty. After reading the holy book many many Americans coverted to ISLAM.

The HOLY QURAN does no allow any MUSLIM to kill another Human/s as every human has a purpose for being created.

Another very important factor which the media hides from us all today is that when the TALIBAN captured the BBC reporter Yvonne Ridley after 9/11, the british media said that the Taliban treated her very badly and when she was released her name was no longer mentioned, question is WHY!! Well, the reason is because wen she was released she was told by the Taliban to read about ISLAM and the HOLY QURAN, after doing this she officially converted to Islam and now presents on Islam Channel on Sky TV channel 836.

My point is that Islam is today the most misunderstood religion today because of the media but the truth is that it is the most peaceful religion.

Read about Islam, Read what the HOLY QURAN tries to explain to us and then judge for yourselves what is right and wrong.


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Posted: 2005-07-09 19:02:20
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soulframe Posts: 225

@ Peterkay

VERY WELL SAID
Now if more people educated themselves like that we wouldn't have all these rash judgements.

People, do you self favours, put down the The Sun newspaper, switch off Fox News and try and see things from a different perspective.
Remember most of the western media tend to present the negative aspect of Islam. Ask yourselves this: when has Islam appeared in the news been about something positive eh?

One more thing these 'terrorists' (if they even exsist) do not represent Islam in no way or form. They are just using it as an excuse. Trust me it's all political
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Posted: 2005-07-09 19:10:20
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PeterKay Posts: > 500

Totally true, if the media had no influence ISLAM would not be accused in any way or form. ISLAM and the word TERRORISM do not go together in reality. The media have put them together for a reason that only they know!

People should stop listening to the media and judge for themselves who is to blame. Research on what ISLAM says and then judge for yourselves what is the truth.

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Posted: 2005-07-09 19:20:30
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axxxr Posts: > 500

PeterKay and Soulframe i applaud and Salute you guys for your excellent posts.

But their still are those people who will not want to know the truth and still lable Islam and Muslims as evil because the hatred they have for muslims and islam is so intense and so deep rooted that they cannot see beyond it...Only a miricle can change the minds of these ignorant and shallow people.
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Posted: 2005-07-09 19:34:07
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peeta Posts: 147

most religions preach peace but those who follow it interpret it for their own ends. Bush is a christian but does that mean he's a man of peace? hmm let me think for like a micro-second about that one.

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Posted: 2005-07-09 19:38:11
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slattery69 Posts: > 500

i agree ive studied many religions over the years particularly islam which i know quite a bt about and i agree more people should undersatnd it.
likewise i wish some of the terrorist who aint muslim in anyway shape or form would take the time to learn abit more about our culture.
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Posted: 2005-07-09 20:15:37
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