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zub Posts: 264


On 2010-11-13 01:07:43, MNX1024 wrote:

On 2010-11-12 18:13:00, Ricke77 wrote:
Everything above 5-6 megapixels is not visible on a ordinary computerscreen unless you wanna make a big poster of it!!


Don't know what you're talking about. I can still see all the noise from my pictures that was taken from my DSLR on my monitor. But, of course, I have a 27" monitor running at a 1920 x 1200 resolution.


More pixels wont mean you get less noise thats completely different. i really feel sorry for people who actually think more megapixels on my camera will get me better pics. i have seen 2mp cameras outshine 5mp cameras in picture quality many times.
[ This Message was edited by: zub on 2010-11-13 01:31 ]

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Posted: 2010-11-13 02:30:28
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MNX1024 Posts: 413


On 2010-11-13 02:30:28, zub wrote:

On 2010-11-13 01:07:43, MNX1024 wrote:

On 2010-11-12 18:13:00, Ricke77 wrote:
Everything above 5-6 megapixels is not visible on a ordinary computerscreen unless you wanna make a big poster of it!!


Don't know what you're talking about. I can still see all the noise from my pictures that was taken from my DSLR on my monitor. But, of course, I have a 27" monitor running at a 1920 x 1200 resolution.


More pixels wont mean you get less noise thats completely different. i really feel sorry for people who actually think more megapixels on my camera will get me better pics. i have seen 2mp cameras outshine 5mp cameras in picture quality many times.
[ This Message was edited by: zub on 2010-11-13 01:31 ]



Do hope that message is not directed towards me and you got my sarcasm. One more thing, I wasn't talking about the picture quality.
[ This Message was edited by: MNX1024 on 2010-11-13 02:29 ]

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Posted: 2010-11-13 03:28:30
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avmaxfan Posts: 281

Ok first of all what makes this new 16.4 mp sensor any different than any other that Sony has released that people seem to suggest that it will NOT be used by SE ?
Last year when Sony released the 12mp sensor, I guess after three or four months the Satio came out with that new sensor. And the same shall be the case with this new 16.4mp sensor. There will be atleast one model with this sensor in the first half of 2011 and later more models might have this sensor.

Now coming to the Anzu, I mentioned earlier that I recieved an update that the Anzu may be getting the 16.4 mp sensor with Xenon Flash.This is the last info I have received about the Anzu.
So the Anzu might have the 16.4 mp EXMOR R sensor. MIGHT is the keyword here

Anyways now on to the bad news. Apparently Gingerbread is delayed and so is the Nexus S . I guess that could mean delay in announcement or perhaps an announcement at CES 2011 :cryl

Just hope this does not happen
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Posted: 2010-11-13 05:25:52
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synn Posts: > 500

How exactly does one change camera modules halfway through the development cycle? Different modules have different physical dimensions and to fit a bigger module in after the design is frozen and protos are made, a near complete redesign is required.

I'm not saying it's impossible, just improbable.
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Posted: 2010-11-13 06:36:43
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avmaxfan Posts: 281


On 2010-11-13 06:36:43, synn wrote:
How exactly does one change camera modules halfway through the development cycle? Different modules have different physical dimensions and to fit a bigger module in after the design is frozen and protos are made, a near complete redesign is required.

I'm not saying it's impossible, just improbable.


Yup but did u check the size of the 16.4 mp module? Its almost the same (infact a little smaller) than the 12 mp module Sony has .
And also the sensor is made for 1080p 30 fps video recording.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-13 06:29 ]

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Posted: 2010-11-13 07:00:05
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ron.jeremy Posts: 131

It's a bit sad that people jump the wagon when an unknown caracter comes in an tell you what you want to hear.
Yet, Rog, a reliable well known insider, uses a few quiet word, your still not listening.
I'm not getting it.
And i'm still hearing the noise from this "insider", funny or just plain old sad?
There is no 16 megapxl devices from SE anytime soon, the X10 succesor have an 12 megapxl shooter by the sound of it, and that is hopefully a good sensor, which hopefully can compete with the sensor of N8.
But going by the looks and size, i'm not holding my breath.
And surely, it's not going to be changed to another sensor, this late in development, this would set back the entire project months, and SE just doesn't have alot of time on theyr hands these days.
Not since K750 days imo.



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Posted: 2010-11-13 08:31:44
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avmaxfan Posts: 281


On 2010-11-13 08:31:44, ron.jeremy wrote:
It's a bit sad that people jump the wagon when an unknown caracter comes in an tell you what you want to hear.
Yet, Rog, a reliable well known insider, uses a few quiet word, your still not listening.
I'm not getting it.
And i'm still hearing the noise from this "insider", funny or just plain old sad?
There is no 16 megapxl devices from SE anytime soon, the X10 succesor have an 12 megapxl shooter by the sound of it, and that is hopefully a good sensor, which hopefully can compete with the sensor of N8.
But going by the looks and size, i'm not holding my breath.
And surely, it's not going to be changed to another sensor, this late in development, this would set back the entire project months, and SE just doesn't have alot of time on theyr hands these days.
Not since K750 days imo.



Yup sure. But do keep in mind that it was this very unknown character that came in and posted here that the X10 successor will do 1080p video recording,have a dual core processor, etc. A lot of people warned not to believe me and that all this was "not going to happen" and that the specs were "imaginary" and it was all fake.
What happened now? Anzu leaked with 1080p video recording, dual core processor, OLED screen

I sure am not a "lucky" guy to have just "guessed" or "predicted" that the X12 will have these specs. And nor does that make sense, does it?

If I was proved wrong and all the specs I had mentioned did not match, then sure you would have all rights to flame me or whatever. But since that has NOT happened, I don't think its "sad" for people to be believing me. Again I am not forcing anyone to believe in me or the specs I mentioned. I did not force anyone to believe in 1080p video recording, but now all do believe right?
If anyone feels that I am just posting bullshit here, then prove that I what I am saying is bullshit rather than just posting comments. Show all the members here proof as to what makes you think my info is wrong. I would appreciate that.
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Posted: 2010-11-13 09:51:11
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rog Posts: 371


On 2010-09-09 14:06:30, avmaxfan wrote:
2 powerful high end smartphones will be launched soon by

One will be the successor to Xperia X10 (Android device with 3.0 Gingerbread and 1.2/1.5ghz processor)
and the other one will be the Xperia X2 successor (Windows Phone 7 Device with 1.2ghz Qualcomm processor )

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Both the devices will be out by the end of the year.



On 2010-09-12 11:22:55, avmaxfan wrote:
Yea the PSP Phone is just a rumor unfortunately. Its not likely that SONY will let use the playstation brand.
Anyways I stand by what I posted earlier....



On 2010-09-10 07:00:02, avmaxfan wrote:
Nope sorry by out I meant they will be "released" in the market by the end of this year around Christmas time.

The two devices (maybe more than two) will be announced in the coming weeks by
...


Just three examples. The problem is that you claimed a lot in the past, added a 'might' here and there, then you got some 'updates' that changed your former statements, etc. If you don't know, just STATE that. Pretending to know by adding 'it might have 16MP' makes you as reliable as flipping a coin on things. Sometimes, less is more, and since you claim that you love SE, maybe you should apply that pattern from time to time... And at the very end of the day, only time (= official released facts from SE) will tell how much anyone of us 'knows', right? On the other hand, as I mentioned earlier on, it is entertaining to read, and I guess it is a very old fact that people like to be entertained. Matter of personal taste.
[ This Message was edited by: rog on 2010-11-13 09:25 ]

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Posted: 2010-11-13 10:21:43
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avmaxfan Posts: 281


On 2010-11-13 10:21:43, rog wrote:

On 2010-09-09 14:06:30, avmaxfan wrote:
2 powerful high end smartphones will be launched soon by

One will be the successor to Xperia X10 (Android device with 3.0 Gingerbread and 1.2/1.5ghz processor)
and the other one will be the Xperia X2 successor (Windows Phone 7 Device with 1.2ghz Qualcomm processor )

....

Both the devices will be out by the end of the year.



On 2010-09-12 11:22:55, avmaxfan wrote:
Yea the PSP Phone is just a rumor unfortunately. Its not likely that SONY will let use the playstation brand.
Anyways I stand by what I posted earlier....



On 2010-09-10 07:00:02, avmaxfan wrote:
Nope sorry by out I meant they will be "released" in the market by the end of this year around Christmas time.

The two devices (maybe more than two) will be announced in the coming weeks by
...


Just three examples. The problem is that you claimed a lot in the past, added a 'might' here and there, then you got some 'updates' that changed your former statements, etc. If you don't know, just STATE that. Pretending to know by adding 'it might have 16MP' makes you as reliable as flipping a coin on things. Sometimes, less is more, and since you claim that you love SE, maybe you should apply that pattern from time to time... And at the very end of the day, only time (= official released facts from SE) will tell how much anyone of us 'knows', right? On the other hand, as I mentioned earlier on, it is entertaining to read, and I guess it is a very old fact that people like to be entertained. Matter of personal taste.
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First of all, I did mention that both the devices were planned to be launched around christmas time. And later after the decision had changed I did mention it here that it will be available Q1 next year didn't I ?

No insider can give you 100% accurate info. Even the guy who leaked the pics of Anzu has an early prototype in his hands and not the actual final product.

There were many products that were supposed to be out, a lot of them even leaked and then got canceled. Does that mean you stop believing the sources ?
Look at Eldar, he gives out insider info but he is not right all the time, nor is he wrong all the time.

I mean I really do not understand. Its not like I am out here fooling people or making them dream of something that will never come true. So why all the flak ?

Anyways I am not going to reply to any such posts in the future, I posted the info on X12 only to share it with esato members and discuss about it. Not to recieve flak and be flamed by people.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-13 09:42 ]

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Posted: 2010-11-13 10:42:25
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CELL-P Posts: 41

Relax guys, the next announcement will determine everything. At least avmaxfan has given some life to this dead thread. And whether you believe him or not, it is up to you.


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