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Smaug Posts: 48

Before things get a little too personal regarding accusations of bias, allow me to interrupt with some comic relief:


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Posted: 2014-03-27 12:17:46
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HxH Posts: > 500

Whoa! Whoa! Where did you get that claim Original Z use Snapdragon 400 as CPU

I would suggest you to STOP reading them completely at all.

Some differences of S4 Pro and Snapdragon 600 is resemble behavior from Qualcomm today SD800 to SD801, just a f*cking incremental upgrade. Not any leap step as manipulated media claim.

BTW, any site out there did actual test that AMOLED and IPS has better battery life than Sony TFT screen? No No please don't you mean GSMArena test, that's actual hilarious one.

the fact is up and down OLED saving more in black theme screen but consume more on white theme, TFT is other hands drain more in black.

Battery life tuning is far more complex than you would think of it.
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2014-03-27 11:32 ]

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Posted: 2014-03-27 12:23:15
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Shino03 Posts: > 500

The Xperia Z2 is clearly the best phone compared to the current flagships from other OEMs. There is no noteworthy feature from S5 or HTC one M8 that could challenge the Z2.
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Posted: 2014-03-27 12:27:43
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RandomCarpet Posts: 202


On 2014-03-27 10:12:31, CrownedAkuma wrote:

On 2014-03-27 08:50:52, AbhiD999 wrote:

On 2014-03-27 06:05:48, itsjustJOH wrote:
Say we compare the Z1 with the competition at the time of its release. Those would be the G2 and the Note 3. Z1 was clearly behind battery life, display quality, even image and video quality. Full res 20.7 MP was useless when you have too much noise when zoomed in, so it was effectively an 8 MP shooter since it was the next resolution available before 4.4. Video quality, well, was sh*t.

The Z2 may be a bit ahead, just a bit, so I say on par with the S5 and M8.


None of things you mentioned is true(and don't quote me gsmarena or PA further)
I don't wanna explain everything just to start a useless discussion.
You are being seriously biased my friend !

He is not biased! He is just stating the truth... If we analyse the latest 3 device we can see that Z and Z1 were clearly behind competition!
The Z was a LOT behind! It just had the merit of being the first device launched with a FHD screen and IP57 rating... But it had subpar display, subpar battery life, average camera and MOST important subpar CPU (s400 instead of s600)... The design was surely great but it was still plasticky, the speaker were average at best! It didn't have flapless jack, magnetic connector or Camera Shutter Button! I mean in the same time there were the HTC ONE and the Galaxy s4!!!

Then came the Z1! It was ahead in design language (finally metal) and IP58, flapless 3,5 jack and shutter button! But still it had subpar screen which drained TOO MUCH battery! And the battery itself wasn't massive! It didn't have Stereo Speaker (which the HTC ONE had 6 months before!)... It had a great camera (better than the HTC ONE but on par with the S4 beacause of noise!)... Finally Sony were on par with the CPU! But stil they were lacking sound, battery and screen to be a beast!

And now the Z2! Which has the BIGGEST battery, Stereo Speaker, a perfect and less consuming IPS screen and last avaible CPU...! This time IMHO Sony has really a device which is one step ahead of completion!
S5 has littler battery (but also AMOLED which are awesome for battery life), no stereo speaker and it's ugly, it has lesser RAM but more powerful CPU (just a bit)... It has GREAT camera and a lot of (unuseful) functions... I'd say it is one step behind
HTC ONE has awesome build quality (on par with the Z2), less RAM, less BATTERY, bigger bezel and littler screen, (probably) AWFUL camera, no 4K... Better Stereo Speakers, 32 GB of ROM ... I'd say it is a a LOT of steps behind...

Nosing is biased, or saying that Sony sucks, they have done BIG LEAP FORWARD with their latest devices and they should gain some market, they deserve it! I for one will be buying the Z2 for sure!


Xperia Z has a S4 Pro CPU, not S400. S4 Pro is very very close in performance to S600 (S400 is significantly worse than both), just saying

And Xperia Z camera quality is actually great (after a few firmware updates).
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Posted: 2014-03-27 12:27:52
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itsjustJOH Posts: > 500


On 2014-03-27 12:17:44, miromiromi wrote:
i think we all have our biases. it's just that we try to be reasonable. we always have that feeling of wanting one brand to do better but we're not letting that preference for one brand to cloud our idea of what is good and what is not. i favor sony (that's why this is the only thread i've been visiting here) but i don't let that prevent my ability to be rational, to fail to see the company's misgivings.


Well said.
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Posted: 2014-03-27 12:44:55
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HxH Posts: > 500

Huh, I don't stand what a moan and crawl on matter of currently OIS technology?

The 2-axis OIS is nothing but a joke, merely compare to software optimization stabilizer, just only sound awesome.

It about time when Nokia going to allow licenses of 3-axis OIS, that is a real deal.

HTC One M8 is now removed OIS from it Duo Camera, what would you say then?
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Posted: 2014-03-27 13:27:12
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CrownedAkuma Posts: > 500

@RandomCarpet & HxH
Thanks for correcting me on the Snapdragon s400 BIT, I ignored this... Sorry
BTW I didn't ge the info from anyone or anything, I just found it in my memories obviously it was wrong!

@HxH always remember that the TFT layer is not a type of display! TFT is found in the HTC and in the Samsung displays... if I'm not mistaking

@Smaug That's the spirit!

@miromiromi +1000 you are absolutely right
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Posted: 2014-03-27 13:43:24
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randomuser Posts: > 500

Yes. TFT is a not a display type. ALL consumer electronics LCD screens feature TFT irrespective of brand or panel type - TN/VA/IPS
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-03-27 12:54 ]

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Posted: 2014-03-27 13:53:57
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HxH Posts: > 500

I know, just teasing
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Posted: 2014-03-27 13:56:46
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FMW300 Posts: 279

I still think the Z1 was up-to-par with the competition, despite its shortcomings. All phones have theirs. Also, Sony DID say the Z1 was their best-selling smartphone ever. It's also clear that the Z2 has some advantages over its rivals. Though I know Sony has a long uphill climb, I believe that once they keep bringing amazing, competitive products like Z1 compact & Z2, there's no way to go but up. And hopefully with improved market penetration worldwide and in the US, coupled with increased marketing, we'll see it!
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Posted: 2014-03-27 14:19:03
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