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the weaker teams are dumb, they could have raced and got some points for 7 and 8 place.... 1 or 2...
points equal money!!!!
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Posted: 2005-06-22 13:27:41
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i hardly think its their fault for not wanting to risk their lives. they also offered to race for no points but that was turned down.
personally though i think that'll be one of the last nails in the coffin for f1. too much greed, not enough sportsmanship or actual racing and too many rules means people stop watching and sponsers don't invest.
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Posted: 2005-06-22 22:29:52
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On 2005-06-22 22:29:52, peeta wrote:
personally though i think that'll be one of the last nails in the coffin for f1. too much greed, not enough sportsmanship or actual racing and too many rules means people stop watching and sponsers don't invest.
@peeta
F1 won't be dying anytime soon. BMW have just bought Sauber which means there are now 4 manufacturer owned teams. I think this is the future for F1. After this years deBARcle I'm sure Honda will either pull out completely or buy BAR and take control. Maybe Audi could bring the Lamborghini name back to F1 or enter itself (Audi can trace it's ancestry back to Auto-Union who competed in the 1930's with financial backing from Hitler).
As for Greed, this is the pinacle of Motorsport remember and requires the use of leading edge technologies, the best in management, construction processes, staff and equipment. The financial investment is MASSIVE as we all know and those who fail, do so on a worldwide scale. As such you can hardly blame people for wanting to win at all costs. I'm afraid the days of Phil Collins handing over his car to J.M. Fangio voluntarily are gone.
In regard to the rules I agree with you; the tyre, engine and qualifying rules have led to some unusual situations this year which has the public scratching thier heads and F1 looking more and more bizzarre...
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Posted: 2005-06-23 04:43:54
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Maybe Audi could bring the Lamborghini name back to F1...
doesnt VW own lambo???... and AUDI?
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Posted: 2005-06-23 08:23:04
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why the hell don't they just go back to the format they had when the bbc showed formula 1. they are going on about safety and the dry tyres they use now have less grip than slicks, and whats with the cut in downforce? ithink they want to make formula 1 more dangerous. also i hate itv because of the adverts every 15 minutes.
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Posted: 2005-06-23 11:59:39
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@786KBR
Yes AUDI is part of the VW Group as is Lamborghini. But it was AUDI who purchased Lambo not VW and AUDI who appointed the Swiss designer who penned the Murcielago and Gallardo. Er, as far as I know.
@Cornholio 666
You're so right. How can F1 safety be improved by making tyre and engine replacements of limits, or reducing drivers time to get aquainted with a track?
At present the cars are powered by 3 Litre 18,000rpm normally aspirated V10's which the FIA predict will exceed 1000hp by 2007. They will then restrict capacity to 2.4 Litres. How good are these engine builders that they can produce a 310+ hp/litre engine?
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Posted: 2005-06-23 12:39:48
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@ car
I know AUDI designed the new lambos, but should they get involved in f1 i doubt theyll run as AUDI or Lambo... i hope and assume it will be VW... versus toyota!!! that will be excitng!!
as for 1000hp - from a 3l v10, thats expected but it shud be more considering they use the best engineers in the world!!!
there are single T2 turbo GTI's (worked) that can easily reach 800-900kw!!!!!
and M3's(worked) (3l str6) that can make 750+kw...
assuming a f1 car is still around 750kw??
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Posted: 2005-06-23 12:53:56
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porsche should come back into formula 1 and so should lotus
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Posted: 2005-06-23 13:20:56
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Neither Porsche nor Lotus have the budget to compete.
Ferrari live for F1, Mercedes are continuing thier proud tradition, BMW are competing with Merc, Both are positioning the road cars as high performance models ie E 55 AMG/SL 55 AMG/M5/M6. Honda and Toyota are both flush with cash, Honda loves F1, Toyota follows Honda (VVTi technology, IRL, now F1). Ford have pulled out, GM are in financial trouble, Nissan are owned by Renault, Chrysler are owned by Merc, Fiat obviously own Ferrari. The only option left is VW group.
Audi have had huge success in DTM, BTCC, Le Mans. I can't understand why they've let BMW/Merc get ahead in this area.
I dont think VW being in F1 will sell any extra Golf's. Perhaps it could help Bugatti to compete with Ferrari if VW entered through them, though I doubt that will happen.
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Posted: 2005-06-23 14:37:09
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@786KBR
Hmm... It's not easy to get 8-900hp out of a turbo GTi, your talking alot of boost pressure there. In NASCAR thier compression ratio is so high that they weld the cylinder heads to the block. You'd need to do that to a 900Kw GTI...
700+ hp/Litre was possible from the 1988 McLaren Honda MP4/4.
310+ is pretty good for Normally Aspirated.
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Posted: 2005-06-23 14:51:14
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