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On 2014-04-12 04:20:10, milukugiuniu wrote:
The next generation of compact phone will be Z3C. Expect year-end release.
Really? what about this?
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]altair-passes-through-the-fcc/
is this the Z3C? Rumour was the new Z3 would use a different sensor from sony, 1/2.4 vs 1/2.3 yet the compact is using the current 1/2.3 sensor. Or will the Z3 and Z3C not use the same camera parts?
Something is fishy with the xperiablog story, the new Z3 is supposed to use a different design from the current Z line, so wouldn't it make sense for the Z3C also to have the same design direction as the Z3?
Unless the Z2C will come out in june/july for japan, and 6 months later, the Z3C?
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Posted: 2014-04-12 09:02:40
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On 2014-04-12 09:02:40, ascariss wrote:
On 2014-04-12 04:20:10, milukugiuniu wrote:
The next generation of compact phone will be Z3C. Expect year-end release.
Really? what about this?
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]altair-passes-through-the-fcc/
is this the Z3C? Rumour was the new Z3 would use a different sensor from sony, 1/2.4 vs 1/2.3 yet the compact is using the current 1/2.3 sensor. Or will the Z3 and Z3C not use the same camera parts?
Something is fishy with the xperiablog story, the new Z3 is supposed to use a different design from the current Z line, so wouldn't it make sense for the Z3C also to have the same design direction as the Z3?
Unless the Z2C will come out in june/july for japan, and 6 months later, the Z3C?
Z2C wont be available.
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Posted: 2014-04-12 09:56:13
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Then if there is no Z2C, then what did xperiablog post?
I am wondering how the new Z3 design will affect the camera placement, and if Sony will attempt to minimize bezels at the top and bottom this time around.
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Posted: 2014-04-12 16:49:28
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On 2014-04-12 05:30:02, Arisato wrote:
Sorry but I think your point in not valid. It doesn't take a company to be software giant to make an OS platform. Your example of samsungs and Intel making Tizen is a clear example and a contradiction to what u said earlier in ur post. And about Sony I think through the years they've got enough experience to make a decent OS specially now that they're completely involved with android, they even helped google more than anyone else to improve android. Also another example is BB10. RIM wasn't a software company but they did it & same goes for Nokia and Symbian.
With the exception of Symbian, non of the other ones you mentioned have any commercial success. And let's be clear, Nokia didn't create Symbian, they bough Symbian LTD which was in fact a software company that came out of PSION. If anything, Nokia ran Symbian to the ground with their pure incompetence and arrogant behavior. They wanted full control and pushed Ericsson (Sony) and Samsung out of the game.
I am not saying that its impossible for a hardware manufacturer to come up with good software, or the other way around, but it just seems unlikely at this point because the cartel has such a stronghold of the market.
Just look at how hard it is to break into the market even if you do in fact have all the resources and money to do so.. Microsoft have been trying to break the Apple/Google duopoly for years.
How many companies out there do you think have the infrastructure, intellectual capacity, and the money to take the fight to Silicon Valley ? Besides Microsoft and Amazon.. I really can't think of anyone else. Blackberry are out.. I don't think they have what it takes, but still.. they are hanging.
You got
1. Sailfish OS (jolla)
2.
http://www.ubuntu.com/phone
3. Tizen (Samsung/Intel)
4. Amazon
http://www.theverge.com/2014/[....]-announce-a-smartphone-by-june
5. BB10
so will have to wait and see which one of these would actually survive..
Maybe the market is big enough for 4 major players ? I dunno..
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Posted: 2014-04-12 18:31:26
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Well it seems we share a common point here. I too wouldn't say it's easily possible to popularize a new OS for any company let alone a hardware one like Sony. I'm just saying they can make a OS and it will be helpful for them in the future, even if they can't beat apple or google. And we should notice if a hardware becomes popular, OS would get developer support as well. So its not impossible for Sony to do that.
On 2014-04-12 18:31:26, cu015170 wrote:
How many companies out there do you think have the infrastructure, intellectual capacity, and the money to take the fight to Silicon Valley ? Besides Microsoft and Amazon.. I really can't think of anyone else. Blackberry are out.. I don't think they have what it takes, but still.. they are hanging.
Well I think Sony has a chance too and a big one at that. They can push hardware boundaries. Something that neither of those software companies are able to do. Lets not forget Google and apple are riding on the success of their software platform here & if someday other software platforms become prevalent, the only differentiator would be hardware and content(music games videos), which Sony has both of them.
But I guess we should wait and see. Odd thing is that none of insiders here talked about a possible Sony OS everytime this talk came up or I didn't notice. Guys don't let us down, any good news! would be appreciated
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Posted: 2014-04-13 00:42:19
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It still amazes me that some people here actually think Sony can push their own OS when a company like Microsoft which is like 100 times more powerful than Sony fails
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Posted: 2014-04-13 11:56:08
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If I wanted Sony to have it's own OS, I would say use Android.. but make Google services as second option behind truly Sony's own services...
The UI can be simplified by adapting Native Android UI, but also have a lot of functions and features to customise it ( like Nova & Holo Launchers ) and also supports themes to handle those who doesn't want Native UI and also to those who loves to change...
That's after they make their services available worldwide... they can't do it now as there services are available in just few countries...
But I just don't want this, not at this time, Sony have a small software team, working on multiple OS's or strategies will not fit there needs ( and our needs as customers )... they need to launch the phones with the latest OS version and as stable as possible with very few or no major bugs... keep updating with fixing these bugs ( if any ) and adding new interested and useful features that just works...
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Posted: 2014-04-13 13:03:28
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Sony doesn't have enough money to make their own competitive OS.
End of discussion.
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Posted: 2014-04-13 13:20:07
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you guys got over excited.. just because Sony have the fortunate by release xperia Z2 with initial success doesn't mean that they will get everything they need to make huge jump like building a new OS
[ This Message was edited by: >>SAMEH on 2014-04-13 14:18 ]
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Posted: 2014-04-13 15:17:03
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On 2014-04-13 13:20:07, -XYZ wrote:
Sony doesn't have enough money to make their own competitive OS.
End of discussion.
This.
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Posted: 2014-04-13 19:29:14
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