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Nokia always does that....
seperates all features to different phones. one has bluetooth, but no GPRS. another one has GPRS but no bluetooth.... etc.
this may cut the production cost to release simple features phone but simply get your attentions, rite?? you guys all excited??
but anyway, using an old crap of 7xxx series style housing for 3G phone... come on
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Posted: 2002-09-27 01:44:00
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the SE people I'm not so sure about... And, btw, the 7650 is a much bigger success than you seem to think.
Well, whoopie.
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@jb: Do you know how complicated WCDMA or GSM chips are? And show me one asian 3G phone the size of T68.
Actually, GSM-chips themselves don't have to be so deadly complicated as you seem to think. It's all those other things that need to be in a phone that makes phone-making so complicated. As I said, the difficult part is making the phone small.
But I don't know about WCDMA.
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transparent handovers between GSM and WCDMA networks? The impressive thing about this phone is that
As people already have pointed out, transparent handovers became old news as of a couple of days ago.
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it is a dual-mode GSM/WCDMA phone, but I guess it's hard to explain how impressive this really is to people
Oh no we understand, better than you think, how profoundly impressed you are. And we're glad it happened for you. You'll have to have more patience with us.
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Posted: 2002-09-27 01:53:00
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First off, what's up with all this; "it only has wap 1.2.1, not 2.0 therefor it sucks" crap???!! What the hell is the big diff!!???
Second, what's up with all these great new high tech handsets getting bigger and bigger and uglyer and uglyer?! I believe in the COMINATION between design and functions!
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Posted: 2002-09-27 01:59:00
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Well, features wise its a great phone, even the design says that the T68i had a HUGE influence because it was SO successful.
Features......First and foremost is an UPGRADE to any phone on the market, that anyone can buy worldwide right now! Proof?: W-CDMA & GSM and giving you 128kbps maximum (although less that EDGE, but EDGE phones are not available currently!). Also the phone allows you to be talking and SEND a SMS/MMS message SIMULTANEOUSLY!!!!!! No phone right now can do that except maybe Motorola A830.
Talk & standby times are a joke and should be improved by a new battery before this hits the market else would hurt Nokia.
The antenna, external, is necessary as I'm not aware of ANY W-CDMA or CDMA2000 phone that doesnt have an external antenna.
Dont get me wrong, I hate NOKIA phones to date, but happy that SonyEricsson phone had an impact that Nokia had to copy the basic shape design of the T68
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Posted: 2002-09-27 04:06:00
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Thats not true. It's more likely that ericsson copied the design of the T68 from nokias 8210. The 6650 kinda resembles nokias first wap enabled phone, the 7110 if you forget about the flip.
This post was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2002-09-27 05:24:00
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OK i guess I dont understand all of this can someone point me ina direction to figure out what all this hoopla is abotu 3g/umts?? any god web pages etc?
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Posted: 2002-09-27 08:14:00
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#First off, what's up with all this; "it only has wap 1.2.1, not 2.0 therefor it sucks" crap???!! What the hell is the big diff!!??? #
Wap 2.0 includes colour, 1.2.1 does not!
From a 3G phone I expect at least that...
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Posted: 2002-09-27 08:24:00
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mr miu:
what's the big deal? if wap 2.0 is not supported. How many colour wap pages are there out there?
I would guess it supports HTML in many forms, so why bother getting wap 2.0?
Anyway, I agree with faca, who can recognize what Technology means, not only software.
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Posted: 2002-09-27 08:48:00
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Quote: Hardware wise it's probably not that much difference between GSM and and W-CDMA phone. It's just another coding technology.
Oh, man... I can't believe I'm actually discussing about 3G with you... You know what? You're right, GSM and WCDMA are absolutely the same... And, if you want to upgrade you network to 3G, you just go to a cell station, connect your keyboard, mouse and monitor to it, wait until Windows 98 boots, and then you right-click on your desktop, choose 'Options' and change the option 'Fancy name' to '3G' and the option 'Max speed' to 128 kpbs (or 384 or whatever, depending on how much you want to impress people). It's that simple, I really don't understand what's all the hype about.
Quote: And yes you can probably almost just change the radio chips, with software for that of course.
Of course... And fortunately, these kind of chips grow on trees, so phone manufacturers just have to take them down and replace the old ones in their phones. In fact, I sometimes wonder what are all those engineers doing in Nokia, Motorola, SE, etc. when it it soooo simple to make 3G networks and phones.
Quote:But the hardest part of a 3G phone is probably the rest of the software, all multimedia services and so on.
Really? I thought that they just put in Windows Media Player? Btw, does this forum have 'the most ridiculous statement ever found in a post' topic? This last one would be a very good candidate...
Quote:And the fact that it's just Nokia and Motorola that have shown actual phones doesn't mean that no other manufacturers has that. Ericsson has been showing phone that can seamlessly switch between GSM/W-CDMA. This is from CNET News:
Isn't that article entitled 'Nokia, Ericsson reach mobile milestone'? Why would they call it 'milestone' if GSM/WCDMA handover is so simple and not inovative like you claim it to be? And, where is that mysterios SE 3G phone? The last 3G 'mobile phone' I saw from Ericsson was actually a van full of equipment. I hope that this one is a little smaller...
Quote:"It has been debated and questioned whether this can be done.
Why couldn't it be done? I mean, just ask ppcrockar, and he'll explain to you just how easy it is...
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Posted: 2002-09-27 10:14:00
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Slightly sarcastic. But well deserved
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Posted: 2002-09-27 10:35:00
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