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max_wedge Posts: > 500

pdf files do conform to a standard, but there is no "internet" standard that says a device MUST support pdf reading. In fact even IE doesn't do it out of the box - you need to install the ADOBE designed IE plug-in.

So it's up to Adobe, not SE, to make with the J2ME pdf reader.

The PDF standard relates to how the document is structured, not where it will be used (as S4k1s said).

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Posted: 2006-02-09 01:26:31
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rockygali Posts: > 500

now i really understand this thread... thanx maxie!
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Posted: 2006-02-09 02:22:36
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optiplex Posts: 220

Actually why doesn't Adobe do it? Already there are pdf readers for smart phones and one Java based reader for Siemens (as stated earlier in the thread). So it shouldn’t be much of a problem, right? Besides; if they come up with a solid J2ME pdf reader, that will do lot of good for pdf reputation/standard with relatively little effort from Adobe.
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Posted: 2006-02-09 03:58:09
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rockygali Posts: > 500

yes indeed.. adjustments are from the roots to the stem not the other way around... got it!
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Posted: 2006-02-09 04:20:34
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

agree optiplex (and rockgali - like your analogy )

Adobe could easily whip one of these out and it would indeed improve the circulation of the pdf format.


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Posted: 2006-02-09 05:07:59
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cped Posts: 13

this is cool
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Posted: 2006-02-11 17:43:26
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brera Posts: 29

Anyone can write a Java-based PDF reader without paying royalties to Adobe because PDF is most definitely an 'Open Standard', and has been for years. This is one of the main reasons why it triumphed over other competing formats in the mid-Nineties. Indeed, Apple chose PDF as the on-screen drawing paradigm for Mac OS X instead of the superior Display PostScript format because PDF was free
and Display PostScript wasn't.

You can find more information about the PDF standard here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format
http://partners.adobe.com/pub[....]loper/pdf/index_reference.html
http://partners.adobe.com/pub[....]pport/topic_legal_notices.html
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Posted: 2006-02-11 18:36:55
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

yes but for years you had to pay licence fees to adobe to design software that outputs pdf files.

So it was an open standard, but only for viewing. That's not quite the same thing as a jpeg file for example, which is truly free and open.

The adobe format was "common" because adobe allowed a free viewer, how nice of them. But "open" and "common" are two different things.

It's only in the last year or two that cheap (legal) pdf creation alternatives to Adobe Professional have come about. This is because adobe finally relaxed their licencing and made it more affordable for developers to make pdf creation software.
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Posted: 2006-03-02 03:05:42
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slugworth Posts: 400

heres an idea, for the money u spent on the phone you could of brout a cheep old P3 or P2 laptop and used that to read ur PDF's on the move lol

and even used the phone to browse the net holy $!*7 the boy has a brain
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Posted: 2006-07-25 03:09:18
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w800br Posts: 30

The thing is that we don't want our phones to become a smartphone, but what we want is a REALLY GOOD MULTIMEDIA phone, what it was intended to be, So thats why many users wants the ability to read PDF files in the phone.
Besides this, It would be really cool if we could read e-books (and this is not just PDF format but chm too [which can be converted to html and perfect read in the phone with bultin browser])
The question that still remains is... the phone can support an J2ME PDF reader?
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Posted: 2006-07-25 17:03:43
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