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i do have the hbh-ds970. they are great, but sometimes with the medium tips i find they hurt sometimes a little. The hpm-70 with medium tips fit perfectly and are comfy, but i think the ds970 just has a bigger actual tip (not the rubber caps, the actual headphone) so thats why its a little painful some times. and im guessing the hpm-70 are just the ex-71 or some other sony headphones but

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i dont think i like the sony ex-81, dont like the wrap around ear style. The bose ones i posted above earlier are looking more and more suitable for me....
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Posted: 2007-04-04 02:42:18
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I was actually looking at the Bose ones as well but recently Bose came clean on there flawed design...
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/pe[....]ffers-free-upgrades-242897.php
I'll stick with my etymotic er6i...
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Posted: 2007-04-04 07:43:10
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not hard to replace. Bose are giving a free upgrade anyway..... and besides, by the time i order, they would have already upgraded them most likely with the new tips.... the current tips look like the etymotics though... ie, something i dont like.
edit: that offer is limited to usa and couple countries only. But again im sure they will start shipping world wide with the new tips. any one know what the new tips look like?
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Posted: 2007-04-04 07:47:31
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@Sammy Boy
The Koss Sparkplugs are great. They never fall out and they a long tube which drives the bass deep into your head. I love em, but then again I'm no true audiophile.
@Jedi-Master
Those cheap ebay connectors are crap for real but I've not had any luck finmding a quality adapter which is just a Fastport with a 2 inch cord to 3.5 without the mic. When I'm really desperate I'll use the included HM-70 or whatever it's called but the mic is terribly heavy and awkward. I hate it. If anything I pull off the earbuds and connect my Koss Sparkplugs and then wrap the excess cord around my phone like a dork.
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Posted: 2007-04-05 08:36:27
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On 2007-04-04 02:42:18, jedi-master wrote:
im guessing the hpm-70 are just the ex-71 or some other sony headphones but

branded....
I think you are right there. For my money, the included headphones that come with HPM-70 are the same things as Sony's mid range MDR-EX71's, though I've never had the chance to do a back to back test. But for the cost of mdr-ex71's they are pretty much what you'd expect SE to market with the HPM-70/82. They are good quality, full range, decent bass response, in ear headphones that will show SE music phones in a good light without being over the top quality.
Hence my guess they used a basic middle of the market headset like the MDR-EX71 as the basis of the HPM-70. Though the MDRNX1, and the new Bluetooth headset DRBT20NX, have identical looking ear buds to the HPM-70 ear buds, I think these both followed the introduction of the SE HPM-70 and are probably borrowing their styling from the HPM-70's.
I'm more than happy with the headphones that come with the HPM-70
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Posted: 2007-04-05 10:12:44
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Based on sound quality, I would say the

buds with the HPM-70 are more like Sony's MDR-EX51. The 71's have much better treble response. (The 81's are better still, and with tighter bass and better midrange, too.) The freebies with the HPM-70 are dull and muddy.
Again, if anyone knows of a set of in-ear headphones with a short cord (like Sony products ending in "SL"), let me know. I really want to use the V-Moda Vibes, but the extremely long cord is a big turn-off.

playback is already a tangled mess, with the HPM-70 or HPM-82 + earbuds.
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Posted: 2007-04-05 16:48:47
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@hlcntwst
Panasonic hje-70. i had a pair, were very good..... short cord too, comes with a 1m extension cord should you need it....
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Posted: 2007-04-05 18:48:24
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On 2007-04-05 16:48:47, Hlcn Twst wrote:
Based on sound quality, I would say the

buds with the HPM-70 are more like Sony's MDR-EX51. The 71's have much better treble response. (The 81's are better still, and with tighter bass and better midrange, too.) The freebies with the HPM-70 are dull and muddy.
Again, if anyone knows of a set of in-ear headphones with a short cord (like Sony products ending in "SL"), let me know. I really want to use the V-Moda Vibes, but the extremely long cord is a big turn-off.

playback is already a tangled mess, with the HPM-70 or HPM-82 + earbuds.
Hmm, okay, if that's the case I'd be interested in trying a pair of MDR-EX71's then. I'm still happy with the existing hpm70 headsets, and while it may be "dull and muddy" compared to 71's and 81's, it's still reasonable (it's all relative). One thing I'll say, if you buy $5-10 cheapies, you'll be letting yourself down. Any cheap headphones I've tried with the HPM-70 sound awful compared to the ones that come with.
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Posted: 2007-04-07 02:41:35
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Shure E2c user here, for my w880i and ipod.
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Posted: 2007-04-07 03:29:49
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Hi all,
Well Amazon have been good enough to deliver my Black Shure EC2'S and all i can say is WOW, i thought the Sony MDR-EX71SL's where good. But this is just a whole different ball game they are very light and comfortable and the sound is just so much better. The first thing i noticed was that the cable is much thicker than on the Sony's and does it make a difference although I'm sure that's not the only difference. Best upgrade i have made so far and IMO for £40 a bargain get a highly recommended from me anyway.
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Posted: 2007-04-11 15:06:28
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