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http://mobile.burn.com/review.jsp?Page=1&Id=236
And if you do some searching on google, you will find videos of Z1010 in action, from several months ago.
Why on earth should I care if Nokia released a handset first? This is quite clearly not aimed at a consumer, and therefore of no interest at all for Joe user. Every company worth their salt has prototypes of 3G handsets which are used for testing purposes, but why the hell release an obviously flawed phone like this? 3G my a**.
Tell me, would you buy one?
-Knut
edit: btw, as far as I know, you cannot BUY any Nokia Edge handsets yet, at least none of my suppliers has them.
[ This Message was edited by: Knut.G. on 2003-06-13 15:58 ]
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Posted: 2003-06-13 16:53:39
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Super G:
where can you use EDGE? In which countries?
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Posted: 2003-06-13 16:55:56
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6200 is an edge-phone and it's selling in US. 6220 starts selling soon in Europe. Nobody else hasn't even introduced edge-capable phones yet.
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Posted: 2003-06-13 21:27:54
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My mistake. Although the max data rate of 118 kbps does not impress me. But I guess its the way Nokia has always done packet switched data, providing throughput way under what is supported in the standards/networks.
-Knut
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Posted: 2003-06-13 22:45:43
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we knew about this phone for like 2 years. there is only one reason for them to bring it out. to show how bad nokia phones are. antenna, why? no cam for video calling??? sony ericsson, samsung, siemens, motorola, nec are gone bring out 3g phones that are 3g phones, and a 3g phones is 3g when it has video calling.
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Posted: 2003-06-13 23:24:44
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On 2002-11-13 08:07:00, Lusipher wrote:
Are you mad?
the thing has a freakin 2h 20min talk time!
It has a HUGE ugly antenna!
It looks like one of them old ugly a2618!
For christ sake! Its a Nokia!
You're damn right!!!! How can somebody like that model!!! Disapointing...
Digital
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Posted: 2003-06-15 03:32:38
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On 2003-06-13 13:47:26, Knut.G. wrote:
And 380 kbps?? Is that really 3G speeds? I thought EDGE could handle that over normal networks?
You really should get the facts straight before you write. In the first phase of WCDMA (3G), 3GPP release99, data transfer rate is 384 kbit/s. Next releases will offer higher transfer rates. In theory also EDGE can support max. 384 kbit/s, but in practise operators will limit it to something like 118 kbit/s. Maybe in the future we can also see higher data transfer rates for EDGE also. So, in conclusion we can say that EDGE can handle max. 384 kbit/s and WCDMA min. 384 kbit/s.
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Posted: 2003-06-16 09:23:57
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http://mobile.burn.com/review.jsp?Page=1&Id=236
And if you do some searching on google, you will find videos of Z1010 in action, from several months ago.
Why on earth should I care if Nokia released a handset first? This is quite clearly not aimed at a consumer, and therefore of no interest at all for Joe user. Every company worth their salt has prototypes of 3G handsets which are used for testing purposes, but why the hell release an obviously flawed phone like this? 3G my a**.
Tell me, would you buy one?
-Knut
edit: btw, as far as I know, you cannot BUY any Nokia Edge handsets yet, at least none of my suppliers has them.
I don't ask you to care or not. The point is that operators do care, and that's what matters in this case as 3G phones will first be sold through operators i.e. with a contract.
I have personally no interest in buying a 3G phone (from whoever) at the moment. Service offering from operators is -as usual- not mature and pricing will be prohibitive for Joe user as you call it. EDGE is what I want. I can do all I want to do with my GPRS phone (video streaming, web and wap browsing etc) today, and EDGE can only make it better. I can get the same services through GSM technology than through WCDMA. Only the max data rates change. This makes the 3G bet even tougher...
The point is -like often in this forum- that there are number of claims SE is far more advanced than Nokia, while in the meantime SE has not begun shipping their 3G phone, has not even unveiled any EDGE phone yet.
To the other post, from whoever, EDGE is being deployed in the US, 6200 is being sold there, and it's starting in Europe (Hungary, Italy) as well as in Asia (at least HK and Taïwan if I recall correctly).
And concerning these inaccurate statements about standards, maybe you should give yourself some time to understand them, first. GPRS allows in *theory* max about 170kbits/s (8 timeslots), EDGE max 473kbits/s (8 timeslots), and WCDMA max 2Mbits/s.
Note also that Nokia so far has made 2 uplink timeslots mobiles (GPRS, EDGE) while others have reached 1 uplink timeslot. (I.e. divide the max data rate above by 4, and 8 respectively). In the downlink, Nokia mobiles operate at max 3 timeslots, while others operate at 4 timeslots. So so, the game is more or less equal between all manufacturers when it comes to implementing a given standard.
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Posted: 2003-06-16 10:07:21
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On 2003-06-06 13:02:29, caff wrote:
It has video camera for taking 15s short clips.........but no video conference as other 3G phones ! Since there's no camera on front of the phone.............pretty useless 3G phone from nokia !
With 6650 you can also record long video clips, ie. it's configurable in the settings.
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Posted: 2003-06-16 10:39:04
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