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Leks Posts: > 500

Had a customer with the same problem. He and his brother bought one P1 each and one of them didnt last for more than a day, although they used them the same amount of time.
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Posted: 2007-08-20 16:52:07
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BratPAQ Posts: 56

this topic made me curious, is there a fake BST-40 now? because, i just remember the the sales lady brought the phone box to me with seal broken, now i just remember too that its a practice that some shops replace original accessories with fake ones, now how will i know if my battery is fake or not? or my 1 GB M2?
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Posted: 2007-11-05 22:25:59
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701 Posts: > 500

There is another point( i know he fixed his problem): if you operator makes some changes regarding the antennas in the area, your energy consumption can go up in no time. Sudently, it'll go from to 2 days to 1 day.
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Posted: 2007-11-06 10:13:14
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VietnamPUG Posts: 4

Hi, hope this may help. I have not tried on my P1i but worth a try.

Battery Reset

Pull the battery out and leave it out for about 10 minutes. Then the battery will reset and so will the phone.

Now this part is important; while the battery is out press and hold the button that you normally press to start your phone. This will zap the chip that holds a charge and information about the state of the battery. Now your files on your phone will be still there, but your phone will be set back to the factory setting before you first charged your phone.

You should charge your battery for two hours before you use your phone, like you did when you first got your phone.

source: http://uiq3.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Documentation/Reset
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Posted: 2007-11-06 10:31:11
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tesssst Posts: 98


On 2007-08-20 16:27:39, Swiftfox wrote:
this is day 3 i have the phone use the calendar all the time, do some text messaging, have surfed few minutes on wifi, had about 10-12 calls
battery is now 53% screen brightness is 70%

hope it stays this good


I dont believe that, especially with 70%!!!

I also manage to get it to 2 Days with very heavy usage - 1-2 hours of GPRS surfing, ICQ, opera etc (mostly GPRS, but some 3g also) about 2 hours of video 2-3, 20 Pictures, 2-3 SMS and 1-2 minutes of calling.

When you say "few times" and "calls" make sure that you explain the exact "duration", a call could be 5 secs...

And with a 70% of backlight - no way! I used to have it at 60 and now use it with 30% when in good light conditions.
But 70%?!? - it drains very very very fast, probably 1-2% a minute of usage
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Posted: 2007-11-06 14:38:21
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Nipsen Posts: > 500

No, it sounds about right to me. If you avoid always- on applications like push- mail, or MSN, and wlan in general, the p1 lasts really long. On light use mine lasted five days before reaching 9% (..some 2,5h talk on gsm, 2h wlan connection for reading news and checking mail, about ten sms sent, some received and a few mms - and just a bit fiddling around with the settings, edited some pictures and so on that I sent, and half an hour of mp3s. But no games, and no maps, videos or browsing web- pages with huge pictures and animated ads, or syncing, and so on).

..I'm guessing it's the lower cpu speed, and better and more efficient memory- usage in general (and lack of animated today- screens), that's the reason why uiq is pretty good on this. Also a lot of people say that standby times don't necessarily go down just because you have programs opened in the background (except if they constantly access memory for some reason. And that could be some voip filter, or the vpn client component, or something hidden, or just some random badly optimised 3rd party app). The same goes for the stability - and all that just suggests very good memory- handling, which means better battery- life all by itself, without any power- saving measures on top of that (like constant and consistent amounts of writes for memory operations, and so on. That would mean it actually helps to optimise code for low power- consumption..).

..but none of that matters if you have a java- app constantly running in the background (typical problem with midlets written while we still only had single- thread j2Me implementations - you know, six months ago). Or have a program not idling out because it animates a button, or something like that. Or have settings from your service- provider polling for roaming services - or just are unlucky enough to have two antennas constantly battling for your signal, like someone mentioned. That's a real pain.. anyone know if it's like that on other phones..?

(...another thing - if you have wlan "activated", the modem draws power even if you're disconnected. Same with the camera and BT (it draws power because the module is powered, even if it goes into "power- saving mode". Imo, it should be possible to allow the program to turn off the power on the module it controls - but until that happens, you can save a lot of battery time by shutting down the camera- app, and disabling bluetooth and wifi when you're not using it.)
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Posted: 2007-11-06 16:35:09
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tesssst Posts: 98

Well from my experience - 5 days of standby would be about 10% of GSM each day - and I mean standby 24h
so thats 50% on that - just standby

2,5h calling is also about 30-40% - according to the manual and according to my calculations. Wlan drains a lot even if you do not use the Mini or anything - 2h is min of 10% and thats a bear minimum...+ the SMS and the MMS and the fiddling in the settings - what is your brightness set up to?

So thats what-110, 120%?

So that doesn't add up, if it was for 3-4 days ok, but I doubt 5!

Either you guys are not 100% correct in your judgments or your phones and providers are better than mine

I would really like to know how much % you get of a 30 or 60 mins of calling - on one time...
Or if you do not talk that much 15- 20mins is still ok...Just make the test someday and let me know so I can see if the calling time matches on my P1i
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Posted: 2007-11-06 22:57:43
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Nipsen Posts: > 500

Well, I don't know. I'm very lucky with the net coverage (it's typically less than ten percent for 24h on standby, I'm sure of that). And I use the headset when I talk - that probably has something to do with it. And the backlight is on 55%, and the automatic dimmer is on. Also, if you lock the keys on the phone, the backlight turns off while you talk

But I still thought it was very good - it's not as if I wasn't using the phone, either... - for instance, on Sunday, I charged the battery. I transferred some games via wlan, and played for a bit (picodrive, and tested a 3d game, perhaps 20mins). I also browsed a while on the internet via wlan. Yesterday I transferred about 250Mb via wlan (that took a while, lots of rf noise in the area...).. and the battery ended up on about 30% or so. Also, the phone- log shows I talked 1h and 5mins after that. Today, in the evening, I put the phone to charge, and the meter said 14%. So, about 2,5 days. And with fewer hours of wlan with constant load, I don't think twice that time would be too much of a stretch..?

...But if there's something running in the background, or if you change frequencies and rates on the gsm net when talking - that would cut down the battery time very quickly. My k750 drained so quickly because of that for a while, that I was sure the battery was broken. Until I started to go up on the hill outside the house to make calls, and things suddenly went back to normal.

(Another thing - I think the phone is trying to establish an access point for gprs once in a while - perhaps there's something done in the later firmware that makes it stop doing this so often? Or maybe it really depends on the provider's setup? That's at least the kind of thing that would definitively ruin the standby time. Could be the same with the net- choice as well, all that's software, after all.. And I don't think I imagined that my standby times were worse before..)
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Posted: 2007-11-07 00:48:51
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tesssst Posts: 98

I don't know about my coverage but that is what I read on the net also -
and last night it was on about 38-40% - today I have 33%. So 5-7 % over night that makes it even more than 10% probably.

I will try leaving it on another spot over night and see what comes up.

P.s. Whats that 3D game you're playing? and do u have many 3D games ?

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Posted: 2007-11-07 11:08:29
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Nipsen Posts: > 500

..last 6-7h 90->88%.

Go here and choose the m600 as your phone
http://www.gameloft.com/3d-games/
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Posted: 2007-11-07 12:35:11
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